JD, we have been around and around about this in other threads but here is a recent one on Col 1:19,20 from 1-7-06
You wrote:
The word tranlated "pleased" in the gk text is the word in question.   "Father" or "God" is atached to that word.   That attachment is a personification and does not actually , literally , exist in the text.  There are good reasons for this personificiation, I admit.  I just think that if we allow for the omission of the words "Father" or "God"  (after all, Paul
could have added those words to the text, if he had wanted to), there is less possibility for confusion. 
 
Also, you appealed to the NASV to argue for the insertion of "Father."   A reasonable argument, by the way.   But, even in the NASV, the word "Father" is italicized  -- the translators want you to know that it is added to the text.  The pleasure expressed in v 19 is Godly pleasure  --  IMPLIED but not written.  It is a divinely appointed pleasure  --  and Christ is a part of that circumstance.  That Christ was going to reconcile all unto Himself from the foundations of the world  meets with the pleasure of both Himself and His Father  --  it is a divinely appointment mission.  jd
 
 
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:56:32 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
She has been corrected on this any number of times, but refuses to accept my comments ABOUT MY OWN INTENTIONS.    She has decided that I am lying about my own intentions and, as such,  her comments are ad hom whether you agree or not.  jd 
 

From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Judy wrote:
> >> ... they can not know God or His Word unless they are
> >> Greek scholars and know every little translational nuance.
>
> John wrote:
> > More ad hom and in this case a flasehood
>
> Please try to leave some of the moderation to the moderator. This is not an
> ad hominem argument. Discuss it in private if you disagree. Judy is simply
> communicating what she perceives how some of the intellectuals on this forum
> come across to her. If her perception is faulty, please try to correct it
> without attacking her. Teach her in meekness and humility. Personally, I'm
> not so sure she is too far off base with this characterization. We will
> know the truth of it by how the intellectuals respond.
>
> David M iller.
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