cd:John -not to insult but I think to focus on concernment on you part would put most of these issues at rest. If you went and asked students at college:" what do you think the highest level of math is?" I think you would get different answers as studentsstudents vary in grade levels-would you then walk away shaking your head saying theses students have been taught wrong? No, I would think that you would realize some have more knowledge than others and relate to them in an appropriate manner-even to help the younger ones understand more-the trick- in my opinion- is to decide where to start and hopefully one can learn as they seek to help others.The same can be said here. D.Miller in my opinion could be one of the leading Bible scholars of our day if he ever outgrew the Church of God-which has trapped his doctoring and he is blind to this fact-which speaks of pride. Judy and I are caught somewhere between Calvinism and Armenians in our doctrine but we see this and want it out of our teachings as soon we can- but ar
e finding that the teachings run deep and don't really know how to leave it behind. The "intellectuals" are trapped in Calvinism toward Catholicism and don't even know it as they focus on the "dancing around teachings" of Baxter-and if they did know one would doubt if they would care. Blaine is Mormon in belief and doctoring and will listen to truth and even agree with that truth but fail to incorporate that his beliefs. DaveH knows the truth but fear prevents him from dealing with that truth-the comfort zone has trapped him.. Izzy-in my limited knowledge of her-has a good handle on truth but is resisted by the flesh. Gary is into Gary.Perry is a great man from my limited knowledge. This is all just my opinion given to help-for you and them not to attack.Note: that I am limited by my bias of self so any feedback offered would be helpful. The main point is go slow as people are different but one must know Jesus and the crucified one.
----- Original Message -----Sent: 1/12/2006 11:03:14 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] DifferencesI am sure I agree --- but I do not dismiss the relational impact (whether positive or negative) of those on this site.When I came to this forum, I was a supporter of David M, typically conservative (for lack of a better term) and an oft defender of Judy Taylor.And what have I learned? That few on this site have a clue as to the meaning of "liberal." ........................ that some on this site place concepts (their concepts which they confuse with divine concpet) as more important than continuing relationships.Lance asked about the difference between the Christ of DM and JT and some others on this forum. There is so much confusion that one scarsely knows where to begin. Perhaps the best way to say it is this: they believe in a Christ of Law and grace and others believe in a Christ of Spirit and grace. The former insists that obedience is the path to God, ala the Old Law -- and the others believe that obedience is a response to the Indwelling - an indwelling that cannot possibly miss His mark because He has become a part of the ontology of the saint.That is how I see the difference.jd-------------- Original message --------------
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----- Original Message -----Sent: 1/11/2006 7:59:37 PMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism & FreemasonryHow Kevin treats someone who is willing to listen to him for an extended period of time has little to do with the way he treats those on this forum with whom he disagrees.jdcd: What I am trying to say is that there is more to Kevin than what you have seen.-------------- Original message --------------
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----- Original Message -----From: TaylorSent: 1/10/2006 1:02:01 AMSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormonism & FreemasonryI have had several encounters with SPs over the years, Dean. And I have observed Kevin's approach to ministry here on TT, not to mention others who have drifted in and out over the last couple of years. And so, I will be the first to admit to a limited experience. Yes, I hung around and listened on more than one occasion, as I was curious to see the kinds of reactions their preaching provoked. And no, it didn't seem to me that they ever really got to the Gospel. "Christ," it seemed, was but a segue to the soul of their message: "Repent, or be damn!"Having said that, I am opened to having misjudged Street Preachers as a whole, by the few I have encountered. That is why I am open to meeting you in N.O.Billcd: I would like to add in Kevin"s defense-that this forum is limited in it's expressive forms-One cannot truly learn another on this site- Kevin has a big heart for the lost and I have seen him stand and discuss truth for hours with one individual-Great patience and love shown by Kevin but not seen on this site.
