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Surely you don't believe that God died do you
Lance?
God didn't sin to begin with - it was the first man
Adam who fell incurring the curse upon mankind
And the second man Adam who paid the price and is the
first born of the New Creation
I'm wanting to know, as this is quite clear, if
DM's position is identical with your own on this?
Once I hear from him I shall get back to
you..
I don't believe you understand His nature at all
Lance; also I fail to see why it is so important to you that he
be
God walking around on earth - why not allow him to
be as the scripture reveals. It is after his death (as a
man)
burial and resurrection that God the Father exalted
Him and gave Him a Name above every Name so that at
the name of Jesus every knee should bow and every
tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of
God the Father.
I think I know where you are going with this,
David. I will of course agree that Jesus was exalted after his
death and resurrection, and you will say that this somehow corroborates
Judy's view that Jesus was not God all the while he was on earth (at
least, I think this is what she has implied). Do you agree with her on
that, then? Yes/No. As for his exaltation, my answer is that it had to do
with his position; it was not a change in nature.
Lance
----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 13, 2006 13:19
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ
- incarnate God (Judy)
Lance, in your theology, was Jesus
exalted in any way, after his crucifixion?
Does the following _expression_ by Peter
also puzzle you?
Acts 2:36
(36)
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made
that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and
Christ.
David
Miller.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006
12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]
Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
I'm puzzled by your _expression_, Judy
'what about Jesus made Him divine'. It is not as if he were a man
to whom a special endowment were added or superimposed, 'making'
him God. He is divine because he is God the Son who has existed from
eternity, of one nature with the Father and Spirit, come AS
A human being. Your question is like asking what makes God God. He
ain't Clark Kent, Judy who needs only to remove his robe thus
revealing his Superman garb.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: January 13, 2006
10:49
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]
Christ - incarnate God (Judy)
Dean and Lance,
What exactly was it about jesus that made
him divine?
Since you say you know what it was not -
can you now tell me what it is?
judyt
Lance wrote:
It was not the Holy Spirit "in" Jesus that made him divine,
if it were then all believers would be equally divine.
Yes; this is what I thought
to myself also when I read Judy's post about
that.
D
cd: Lance and
Debbie- what bearing do you view Jesus having that
spirit "without measure" have on you
statement?
Albert Barns wrote:
Joh 3:34 -
Whom God hath sent - The Messiah.
Speaketh the words of God - The truth, or commands of
God.
For God giveth not the Spirit - The Spirit of God.
Though Jesus was God as well as man, yet, as Mediator, God
anointed him, or endowed him with the influences of his
Spirit, so as to be completely qualified for his great
work.
By measure - Not in a small degree, but fully,
completely. The prophets were inspired on particular
occasions to deliver special messages. The Messiah was
continually filled with the Spirit of God. "The Spirit dwelt
in him, not as a vessel, but as in a fountain, as in a
bottomless ocean (Henry).
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