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CD > I wrote a statement of
Mary/Christ seed before I read yours Bill.
Yes, Dean, I read it, and I am familiar with
it; in fact I know it well, having been raised in it. But I know now
that it is inadequate to express the magnitude of Christ. Please just pray
about what I am presenting and let God guide you into the rest. I have no desire
to be your enemy or anyone's enemy. My passionate desire is for your well-being.
Please believe that.
Bill
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Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 6:42
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus , neither
God nor Man
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Sent: 1/17/2006 7:54:17 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus ,
neither God nor Man
And David is a direct descendant of Eve, is he
not? Thus the Seed promised to Eve passed through Abraham, through
David, and to Christ, through the woman, Mary. You are rejecting MUCH when
you reject this.
If they care about Judy's salvation, it is time
to start hearing from the Street Preacher's on this one. It is one thing to
live in ignorance; it is quite another to reject what you know to be
true.
Bill
cd: I wrote a statement of Mary/Christ
seed before I read yours Bill.I believe Judy has salvation -as I
believe you Jd , Lance, and Debbie also have
salvation.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:38
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus ,
neither God nor Man
Mary might be David's lineage but she doesn't
have loins does she? However, he was to be the seed of
the
woman - the other scriptures are good.
Thanks.
Are you saying, Judy, that Mary is not of
David's lineage? You had better think this through, as Jesus absolutely
must be of the Seed of Abraham, which passes through David on its way to
the fulfillment of the promise in Christ. "Now to Abraham and his Seed
were the promises made. He does not say, 'And to seeds,' as of many, but
as of one, 'And to your Seed,' who is Christ" (Gal 2.16). And it is not
by way of adoption that Abraham's Seed finds fulfillment in Christ. That
would be a blasphemous thought: "What purpose then does the
law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the
Seed should come to whom the promise was made" (Gal
2.19).
You know, Judy, you always say "Show me in
Scripture." Well, you have been shown. Now, is that all smoke, or are
you going to live by your words?
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006
7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Jesus ,
neither God nor Man
Luke
writes that Jesus was born of the fruit of David's genitals (Act
2.30):
Not
exactly Bill "David being a prophet and knowing that God had sworn
with an oath to him,
that of
the fruit of his loins,
according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his
throne."
Right, so
in Matt we have a genealogy that shows Joseph is in David's
lineage but he is
hardly
the biological father of Jesus is he? Even though Jesus is
born in his lineage.
hence he was not some kind of new humanity,
freshly brewed with new material, unrelated to fallen
humankind;
No, he is
human like David was human, born on our side of the
fall.
He did
not come to this earth through procreation Bill. He did not have a
human father - He may have been
born on this side of the fall but he was most definitely
not born fallen. One can not be fallen and holy ATST
And to the naysayers Jesus said, "Before Abraham
was, I AM"; hence Jesus pre-dated even Abraham, David'
predecessor. But it was not his humanity which pre-dated
David; it was his divinity. And notice: he did not say that his
Father was the I AM, and that he was copying him.
No, Jesus said that he (and this before his glorification)
is I AM; that is, Yahweh, the LORD who
covenants with Abraham.
So?? Noone here disputes his
heritage.
Jesus is FULLY GOD and fully man,
two realities in one person, united -- but make
him anything less than God or anything more than
man and you are courting a demon, who is powerless to save
you.
Either that or you are courting
religious spirits who are filling your head with the doctrines
they have been promoting for
thousands of years. He doesn't have to be fully anything. He
is who the Word of God
says He is - which is the Word
made flesh.
Bill
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