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Yeah, I think that God in Christ actually
penetrated to the root of humanity's problem, thus purging sin from within man.
I'll say more about this in that post tonight. In the meantime you can start
thinking about it like this: God did not just protect the human nature of Jesus
from exterior intrusions, which is all he would have had to do if we were
like pre-fallen Adam; no, he actually got inside the man Jesus and beat sin from
within his nature, where it had devoured Adam's posterity. I'll expand upon
this later.
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance,
Bill, John, David?
Ahhhhh! This then would put JND in the position
of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest that if
JND's understanding were wrong then, one might come to understand better how
it is that the Brethren and, their offspring preach the 'gospel' that they do.
This, in reality, is that to which I was alluding when I addressed David
Miller on the 'homosexual question'. IFF your christology is fundamentally
wrong (I'm with Bill on this one) then, the 'gospel' you preach is wrong on
pretty much everything.
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Sent: January 21, 2006 08:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance,
Bill, John, David?
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Sent: 1/21/2006 7:17:47 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance,
Bill, John, David?
One would assume, Dean, that herein lies
something of your own understanding on the matter at hand. Why not draw
that 'something' from the Darby quote, put it in your own words then,
await a reply?
cd: Christ did not lower himself to become
as the state of lost men-whom serve Satan. The divinity in Him would not
allow it.
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Sent: January 21, 2006 07:08
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy,
Lance, Bill, John, David?
cd: Bill I have condenses article written by Darby: Do
you agree with it?If not why?
This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are
saved, whom God brings to glory, although at their head. It is this
which our epistle sets before us He who sanctifies (the Christ),
and they who are sanctified (the remnant set apart for God by the
Spirit) are all of one: an _expression_, the force of which is easily
apprehended, but difficult to express, when one abandons the
abstract nature of the phrase itself. Observe that it is only of
sanctified persons that this is said. Christ and the sanctified
ones are all one company, men together in the same position before
God. But the idea goes a little farther.
It is not of one and the same Father; had it been so, it could
not have been said, "He is not ashamed to call them brethren." He
could not then do otherwise than call them brethren.
If we say "of the same mass" the _expression_ may be pushed too
far, as though He and the others were of the same nature
as children of Adam, sinners together. In this case He
would have to call every man His brother; whereas it is only the
children whom God has given Him, "sanctified" ones, that He calls
so. But He and the sanctified ones are all as men in the same nature
and position together before God. When I say "the same," it is
not in the same state of sin, but the contrary, for they are the
Sanctifier and the sanctified, but in the same truth of human
position as it is before God as sanctified to Him; the same as far
forth as man when He, as the sanctified one, is before God. On this
account He is not ashamed to call the sanctified His brethren.
This position is entirely gained by resurrection; for although in
principle, the children were given to Him before, yet He only
called them His brethren when He had finished the work which
enabled Him to present them with Himself before God. He said indeed
"mother, sister, brother;" but He did not use the term "my
brethren," until He said to Mary of Magdala, "Go to my brethren, and
say unto them, I ascend to my Father and your Father, and to my God
an your God." Also in Psalm 22 it is when He had been heard from the
horns of the unicorn, that He declared the name of a Deliverer-God
to His brethren, and that He praised God in the midst of the
assembly.
He spoke to them of the Father's name while on earth, but the
link itself could not be formed; He could not introduce them to
the Father, until the grain of wheat, falling into the ground, had
died; until then He remained
alone,
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