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> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Date: 1/26/2006 9:17:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] beginning
>
> Dean wrote:
> > Another man of one book J.Wesley ...
>
> John Wesley was not a man of "one book."  He read other books constantly, 
> just as Paul did.  What is meant by your quotes is that in the context of 
> that particular ministry to the people being talked about, the preaching 
> focused upon Jesus Christ and nothing else
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  cd: David for me this is the same thing. Every thing revolves around the
Bible and any view opposed to that view is not acceptable-including the
earth being older than the genealogies point it out to be? The other book
one studies will lead to questions that allow the Holy Ghost to answer-then
one has revelation. J.Wesley did state that he was"a man of one book".
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>
> David Miller wrote:
> >> I do not believe in a pre-existent "creation."  I simply
> >> believe that the earth is very old, primarily for Biblical
> >> reasons.  From my perspective, the Scriptures seem
> >> to assert an ancient foundation for the earth.
>
> cd:
> > I would like to see this scripture?
>
> Such a teaching can get rather involved, and it does involve some
personal 
> revelation, but following are a few passages.
>
> Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the 
> heavens are the work of thy hands.
> Eze 26:20 When I shall bring thee down with them that descend into the
pit, 
> with the people of old time, and shall set thee in the low parts of the 
> earth, in places desolate of old, with them that go down to the pit, that 
> thou be not inhabited; and I shall set glory in the land of the living;
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cd: Pre-flood and creation reference v.20 is speaking of those who drowned
in flood ending with Christ reference.
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> 2Pe 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God
the 
> heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the 
> water:
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cd:Genesis Creation reference.
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> Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
declare, 
> if thou hast understanding.
> Job 38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath 
> stretched the line upon it?
> Job 38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the 
> corner stone thereof;
> Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God 
> shouted for joy?

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cd: Answer: Neither Job nor I was here to judge God on his works.
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> cd:
> > In my view that would mean that the older
> > salt water would have to disappear somewhere
> > in very large volumes?
>
> No, you are assuming that the old earth was basically in the same shape
and 
> form that it is now, with oceans of saltwater and continents.  Genesis
1:2 
> says that the earth was "without form and void, and darkness was upon the 
> face of the deep."  The subsequent account specifies the separation of
land 
> from water, which I believe took place much later than the actual
creation 
> of the earth itself.  In other words, between Genesis 1:1 & 1:2 was a
great 
> amount of timecd: No as 
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cd: Why would it take time for God to add order to disorded?Would he have
to wait till the disorder fashioned itself to certain stage that He would
be able to use for order-if so would He be God that can do all things
except sin?
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>
> David Miller. 
>
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