The reasons for her difficulty and the history lesson constitute information that is more than obvious, David. Unnecessary.
She most definitely has denied that Jesus is God in the flesh. But you, of course, seem to think there are other matters that are more important, so maybe you missed it.
I don't like going to the archieves, but on this one, I most definitely will. She believes there are at least two kinds of human "flesh," the one Jesus possessed and the one the rest of us own. She does not believe in the physical blood-lineage of Jesus to David and Abraham. And she does not believe that Christ was actually God in the flesh.
What are earth do you think we have been arguing about for the last two or three weeks ??? !!!
jd
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> JD wrote:
> > She has preached against the deity of
> > the incarnate Christ for a good long while
> > -- over a year.
>
> This is not a proper characterization of what Judy believes. It is
> difficult to discuss truth when one side constantly misrepresents what the
> other side believes. Judy has never preached against the deity of Jesus
> Christ. She has been attempting to emphasize the deity of Christ when faced
> with the suggestion that Jesus had to overcome the sinful nature of his
> flesh. These matters are not easily understood. I personally understand
> how someone might have trouble with the suggestion that Jesus Christ was
> flesh and blood just like you and me. I had difficulty with the concept
> when I first considered it. I t was easier for me because nobody told me
> about it... I just read it in the Scriptures and believed it.
>
> It was easier for those living at the time to accept his humanity. They saw
> him everyday, and they observed his humanity far better than any of us.
> What was revolutionary for them was not that he was a man, but that he was
> the Son of God, the Messiah.
>
> After his ascension, then the Gnostics started with the idea that he really
> was not a man at all, but he only appeared to be a man. It was a lot easier
> to make up stuff about Jesus after he was no longer standing among them.
>
> In these days where people can't even agree on when life begins, or whether
> a spirit and soul exist, or only a spirit, or only a soul, or neither spirit
> or soul but only physical body exist.... well, the question gets
> complicated. I don't expect everyone to comprehend immediately. We testify
> to the truth, we share Scrip ture, we express truth, and through patience we
> help others comprehend the miracle of the incarnation, God made flesh. I
> have little doubt that Judy will see this well enough. The biggest obstacle
> to her right now is that the loudest proponents of this view treat her very
> unfairly. That speaks louder to her than any arguments that you might make.
>
> David Miller
>
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