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----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 11, 2006 08:44
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing
suit.
I don't see the harm that stems
from loving Jesus and seeking His will. If I can say, with a pure heart, that I
desire both of those, there is nothing harmful about my views.
No harm stems from loving Jesus and seeking his will. But
it is certainly no guarantee against the holding of harmful views. But I
don't think there's any use saying this, because they simply don't agree. They
think that if you love Jesus enough, your position on everything will
be correct.
D
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 10, 2006 23:46
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing
suit.
Lance wrote: The harm done to women,
both in the church and in society at large
Lance what harm have I done?
Are my ideologies so offensive? I take my cue from the Bible, from Jesus
confirming the Bible's wisdom in my heart, and from living with a strong, Godly
woman: my mother.
Your comment here is strikingly similar to the
students here on campus, who are offended by my thinking and call me "dangerous"
and a "bigot." I don't see the harm that stems from loving Jesus and seeking His
will. If I can say, with a pure heart, that I desire both of those, there is
nothing harmful about my views.
Blessings
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry Christine but, this is just is just
Christine 'McMiller' speaking (as in Edgar Bergen & Charlie McCarthy - for
Judy's research). The harm done to women, both in the church and in society at
large, by your Dad and, by extension, yourself is reprehensible. You may one
day have a 'voice' of your own but, for the time being you are but an
androgenous version of DM.
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Original Message -----
Sent:
February 08, 2006 15:52
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
Why is sexism a bad thing, Lance? I know you have been
brainwashed to understand that term to mean something horrible and
unethical, but we would be foolish to ignore that men and women are
different from one another. I appreciate you offering me an apology, but I
was not offended by Dean's remarks. Even if I was offended, Dean is entitled
to his opinion, and should not lose his office of Moderator for having an
opinion that isn't politically correct. You are attempting to institute
Thought Crime, here, Lance.
I'm pretty sure George Orwell wrote
"1984" as a warning, not as a How-to Book.
Lance Muir
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sorry Judy? How about sorry Christine, Mrs.
David Miller, Mrs. everybody who might read this thoroughly sexist remark.
How about David 'lifting' you as Moderator (?) immediately? This remark,
IMO, goes far beyond the minor engagement between DH and miscellaneous
others.
As to the latter Dean, it is always wise to
know when someone WON'T be 'proven wrong' on an issue. I perceive that
this is one of those, Dean.
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Sent:
February 08, 2006 11:49
Subject:
[TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.
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Sent:
2/8/2006 11:34:58 AM
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)
Originality not being your
strong suit Dean, you are to be commended on parroting Judy's
perpetual jibe. As neither of you knows whereof you speak, we'll just
smile in response. Of all things that I'd not anticipated from you, JT
& DM was 'buddying up' with the Mormons. You may just be out of
your league as Moderator. You are out of your league theologically.
Mayhap a call to DM would prove helpful prior entering the ring on
this one again. You will need much more than Webster's dictionary, I'm
afraid.\
cd: :-) Hello DavH O' buddy
how are you today-aren't you glad our God isn't feminine so the earth
won't be flooded once a month(sorry Judy-but I'm getting visions
of an angry female God with lighting bolts-scary)?So Lance why don't
you prove me wrong instead of waiting to agree with the
disagreeables.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 08, 2006 11:14
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2
cd)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 2/8/2006 10:56:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2
cd)
FWIW Bill,
I'd suggest that we leave Dean, DM, JT and perhaps even DH, to
Amen one another on this issue. You are correct that they are
flirting with a position remarkably close to the Mormons. One can
'hear' the level of certitude being
expressed.
cd:
Well .Lance that could leave you time to work on you language-what
is it called again? Dancing English? A language that
changes meaning when you want it to-which will go well with
your Dancing bible and your Dancing
gospel.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 08, 2006
10:10
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness
(jd 2 cd)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 2/7/2006 10:15:34 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Rightousness (jd 2 cd)
cd: Is
Jesus male or female John/Lance/Bill-If he is God as you say
what is he?
Jesus is a man, Dean, and he is God -- two natures in
one person. Please stop confusing the two.
You create God in Adam's image, and Judy calls us
earthly minded: what a joke! Have you considered how close you
are getting to a doctrine which claims that God the
Father came down and had physical-sexual intercourse with
Mary? You do claim he is male, don't you? That's like saying,
since he has the equipment, why didn't he use it? This is
ridiculous. "Male" is a physical/biological term. "Father" is
a relational term, the same with "Son." You don't have to
confuse the two. Yes, sometimes these terms coincide, but
they are not requited to. Please, brother, stop with
the accusations and smears (what has gotten into you?!), and
just consider for a moment what you are suggesting: that God,
being Spirit, has to have male attributes, over
against female or a mixture of both -- as if he
must have something between his legs or he can't be
God. My gosh, people, he is Spirit; he is neither male,
nor female -- nor both. Stop with the
foolishness.
Bill
cd: I realize you guys will
not accept the Webster definition for the meaning of English
words- as the rest of the world does- and have developed
a whole new language but that is what I am using. To have
a masculine quality is to be a male. God doesn't have a sexual
organ as one is not needed in heaven as He can
create humans from rocks or bones and still be the
provider for the family as is the Father of a family. Thank
you for the using words like silly-foolish and such like as
you are only verifying my position in Jesus Christ and
building my future:-) Notice # 4 if you are able-in the
English language one can be male without the organ .Hence
a masculine spirit is a male spirit-What are you not getting
Bill-is all that dancing around making you
tired?
Masculine
M`ASCULINE, a.
[L. masculinus, from masculus,
mas.]
1. Having the qualities of a man;
strong; robust; as a masculine
body.
2. Resembling man; coarse; opposed
to delicate or soft; as masculine
features.
3. Bold; brave; as a masculine spirit or
courage.
4. In grammar,the masculine gender
of words is that which expresses a
male,
or something analogous to it; or it is the gender appropriated to males, though not always
expressing the male
sex.
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