Lance, based upon your previous comment concerning how I wake up to posts about me, I think perhaps it would be prudent for me to stop answering posts about me. So at least for now, I will be ignoring questions and comments about me. I have other more important matters that require my attention around here.
David Miller. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding David: I'm having some diffulty 'catching your drift' (meaning) in paragraphy two. Kindly say the same thing in other words. Further, please clarify for me (us) two things again/for the first time: 1. Distinguish between a. the office of prophet & do you occupy it? b. is there an office of king within the believing community & do you occupy it? thanks for this, Lance ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: February 15, 2006 07:51 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > Nobody who has ever known me in person has called me pompous, but I have > been accused of such from my writing. I think the apostle Paul had a > similar problem (2 Cor. 10:10) so I'm not going to worry about it too > much. > > For what it's worth, I do not lay claim to 'knowing' in a special way > beyond > that of most, IF by most you mean other believers. I do lay claim to > 'knowing' in a special way that is beyond that of the world. It is > called > the Holy Spirit. Do you have a problem with this? > > As for Christology, that does matter, but not nearly so much as sin. > Believers who testify that they are addicted to sin and so is everybody > else > is of much more serious concern than those whose Christology seems > defective. > > David Miller. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lance Muir > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 7:19 AM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > > Anyone here watch hockey? Legitmate body checks are permissible. TT's a > little like hockey. The serious issue at hand re: 'delusion' is not > necessarily rooted in wrong doctrine, IMO. However, few would disagree > that > misrepresenting 'who Jesus is' (Christology) matters. Pomposity when > speaking also matters. DM, IMO, is pompous in a quiet, literate fashion. > DM > also lays claim to 'knowing' in a special way beyong that of most. CD has, > of late, been adopting such an approach. Judy also, along with DM, lays > claim to 'inspired' understanding of the Scriptures. Within such an > engagement as this all we have is 'body checking' and, IMO, that ought not > be the primary focus. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dean Moore > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Sent: February 15, 2006 07:08 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Sent: 2/14/2006 6:02:49 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > > > Aahhh ----------- from you two, mostly from Judy. > cd: If it is true it is only so under the delusion the worlds suffers > from-but God does allow that delusion for a reason John. I have no doubt > that you speak the truth as you see it-but this is much different from the > one that exists. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cd: I am not sure where you got this twisted version of our statements > that > have been taken out of context- but you are incorrect.By the way who is > the > BSF? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Sent: 2/14/2006 1:25:44 PM > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding > > > Let's talk "cult," shall we? I am taking this list to the local BSF. > Wonder what they will say !! It will describe a person I am dealing with > who believes the following: > > 1. Adam and Eve were spirit beings before the fall -- their flesh being > changed afterwards. > > 2. Christ is not the "eternal " Son of God. > > 3. Christ was of human flesh for only 3 1/2 years. > > 4. Christ was not the physical descendent of David - only in some > spiritual sense. > > 5. Christ was not "God on earth" during His ministry. > > 6. The "Trinity" is false doctrine. > > 7. God is male and has a penis. > > 8. God illuminates His disciples to the extent that discussion and books > are not necessary. Because of this "illumination," the understanding of > acripture can be "received" from the Spirit without fear of being wrong. > Those who have this Spirit cannot be mistaken when it comes to the Bible > and > what it means to say. And those who disagree with this are false > teachers > and need to be opposed. > > 9. The old law is binding and continues to be something we must obey. > > > I would add to this list -- but I am sure this will be sufficent . > Dean, you and Judy are the very definition of "cult!!" but nice try. > And > what do you want to bet that BSF will not agree? > > By the way - you are the one who has set the tone for this response. > This is the fruit of your ministry. Accusing me of preaching the occult > is > not going to fly. > > jd > > > > > > > > > > > > > l message -------------- > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > .Amen Dean, > JD I figure you were thinking of Proverbs 11:14b when you wrote what you > say > below ie: "in the multitude of > counsellors there is safety" However the "counsellors" referred to in > Proverbs ARE those of God's Word or > the Biblical text as you call it. They all say the same thing by the same > Spirit and this is the counsel in which > we find safety. Groupthink?? Anathema!! > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 07:02:15 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > cd: A very good definition of the birth of a cult John. No one truth to > live > by but group thinking-No standards to point our error if the group agrees > with the present circumstance-I can see why your group don't like > preaching > such as David does-the one is dominated by the many as his voice is lost > in > the power of the mass. > > JD writes: > In the biblical concept of the church > I see an avenue for continuing revelation, and if not revelation, > certainly interpretation or understanding. If you will, it is in the > counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical text is expanded > and/or confirmed. How important, it is, then, that the church > continue > to meet in forums such as this -- whether virtual or physical. A > community of Being reveals Himself to a community of Believers and it is > out > of this communal reality that our understanding of God and His t houghts > is > borne. > > jd > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. 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