What do matters of difference between BT and DM have to do with "understanding"
the gospel Lance?  To me the point of the conflict sounded something like "God hides
things from the 'wise and prudent' and reveals them to babes. 
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:09:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Main point from Dean: A child can 'understand'. To some extent a child CAN understand. However,
Judy/Dean a child does NOT have the capacity to sign on TT and resolve matters of difference say,
between Bill Taylor and David Miller. Don't make something mean more than it can.
 
Lance it amazes me that so many think they know exactly what God would and would not do - Yet
their ideas are diametrically opposed to His Ways.  What was the main thrust of your point to Dean
that I missed?
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:27:40 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
You've worded this in such a way as to suggest that God wouldn't 'use' those things I mentioned. He does.
You appear to have missed the main thrust of my point to Dean. That's OK.
 
Correction!!  Study helps do not give "understanding" Lance.  Only the Holy Spirit can give "understanding"
Historical background is not "understanding" per se. One can know all ABOUT something and be completely
void of "understanding" or spiritually ignorant just like the scribes and pharisees of Jesus' day..
 
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:47:50 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
By the way Dean, if a child can understand it then, would you say that Judy doesn't need her 'study helps' and DM doesn't require skills in ancient languages, logic etc.? 
cd: I think this is good advice and I am trying to do just that Lance. My advice to you is to forget all the different "isms" in these other views as they have IMO lead you into confusion.God wrote in a language so simple that even a child could understand-what you hold for truth is a doctrine of complexity that even a collage graduate would fall short understanding-and you or Satan has placed people around yourself that is supporting this complex error. Simply read the Bible for your self and draw you own conclusions from those written words and-as you say live by those words-respectfully.
 
 
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 2/24/2006 5:58:24 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

Dean says to Lance "their is only ONE TRUTH...the  Bible wording supports OUR TRUTH" Further, "I have tried to teach you...(the Bible truth, the One truth, our truth.. concerning sin)"  
 
I posted the course notes on Christology for you to see the diversity, Dean. In Mad Magazine it was Spy vs Spy whereas on TT, in the churches and, in life it is ideaology vs ideaology, religion vs religion, belief vs belief and, yes Dean, even SCRIPTURE VS SCRIPTURE.
 
I suggest that you live out that which you believe God has shown you. 
 
 Original Message -----
From: Dean Moore
Sent: February 24, 2006 05:33
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 2/22/2006 7:18:44 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Plurality vs Pluralism - Who is believing/teach THE TRUTH?

Look 'em up. I'm for the former and, agin' the latter. It seems to me that each believes their understanding of the truth  to be THE understanding of the truth. Each attempts to demonstrate the foregoing by employing means generally acceptable to all participants. When arriving at an impasse, persons just agree to disagree or,  think of those with whom they disagree as unwilling/unable to SEE their (read THE) TRUTH. Persons also testify to the presence of their truth in their lives. Persons suggest some variation on illumination/enlightenment/Divine confirmation of their truth.
cd:The problem I see with your reasoning Lance - Respectfully- is that the Bible wording supports our truth (ie. And there is only one truth). We can back up what we say with the word of God with harmony through the entire Bible- these others you mentioned cannot. I have tried to teach you about sin and the consequences of sin even on a believer. Can you use the Bible to teach me once saved always saved?
 
How and, in what ways have I mischaracterized TT since its inception?  
 
 
 

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