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March 02, 2006 19:08
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Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Some of those in
Rwanda who perpetrated the genocide were
believers.
WRONG AGAIN
Stop slurring Christians by trying to lump them in with
Catholic KILLERS.
You play real loose with Facts. Are Facts irrelevant to
you?
Maybe you need a program so you can tell apart the
players?
Rwandan nuns were convicted of murder for
their roles in the massacre of 7,000 Tutsis who sought protection at
a Benedictine convent.
I
think that means it was those loving catholics
again!
Same old RC Church as it
ever was:
an international court is trying several Catholic
priests for their alleged role in the massacres, in which
Hutus murdered 800,000 minority Tutsis and moderate Hutus
Father Seromba's trial at the International Criminal
Tribunal for Rwanda will revive heated debate about the
role of the Catholic Church during the dark days of 1994. The
Catholic hierarchy in Rwanda had close ties to extremist politicians
in the run up to the genocide and some priests like Father
Seromba are accused of actively assisting the Hutu
militias.
In 2001, two nuns were found
guilty of taking part in the genocide in a Belgian court.
The Vatican accepts there are
individuals in the church who committed crimes, but
controversially, it says the Church as an institution cannot be held
to blame. At the time of the genocide, some 60% of Rwandans
were Catholic but some have since converted to Islam,
saying the Church failed them in 1994.
http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/features/21165 Rwanda
was the most Christianized country in Africa and the Roman Catholics
were far and away the largest Christian denomination.
Catholicism was virtually the official state
religion. Catholic officials had enormous influence at both
the elite and the grassroots level, which they consistently failed
to use to protest against the governments overtly racist policies
and practices. Indeed, the Church gave the government moral
authority. Once the genocide began, Catholic leaders in the
main refused to condemn the government, never used the word
genocide, and many individual priests and nuns actually aided the
genocidaires.
This is just another show of what happens when the Catholics
& the Government are in BED TOG$TH$R
AbSOLUTE ANNIHILATION whether it was then or now.
Call it genocide if you want I call it the TRUE BELIEVER doing
service to their 'god'
Catholic and Reformed Catholic are just as TOLERANT as the
Muslim
GENOCIDE IS Roman
Catholicism!
"And I saw the woman
drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the
martyrs of Jesus..."
See the HIGHLITES of their HISTORY
below>>>>>
Argument 2d. Experience shows that terror is not effective.
I reply, EXPERIENCE PROVES THE CONTRARYFOR THE DONATISTS,
MANICHEANS, AND ALBIGENSES WERE ROUTED, AND
ANNIHILATED BY ARMS. -- Robert Bellarmine,
Disputationes de Controversiis, Tom. ii, Lib. III, cap. XXII,
"Objections Answered," 1682 edition.
Roman Catholic Ustaa 1941 to 1943, the regime
slaughtered at least (estimates range up to 1 million) 250,000 Serb
residents of Croatia and Bosnia, and more than 20,000 Jews.
1941-JUL-22, Dr. Mile Budak, the Ustaa Minister of
Education and Cults, said: "The movement of the
Ustashi is based on religion. For minorities-Serbs, Jews and
Gypsies, we have three million bullets. We shall kill one
part of the Serbs. We shall transport another, and the rest of them
will be forced to embrace the Roman Catholic religion. Thus,
our new Croatia will get rid of all Serbs in our midst in order to
become one hundred percent Catholic within ten years."
Inquisition: It has been estimated by careful
and reputed historians of the Catholic Inquisition that 50 million
people were slaughtered for the crime of "heresy" by Roman
persecutors between the A.D. 606 and the middle of the 19th century.
By their own (RC) count 125,000 trials of suspected heretics in
Spain alone, in Portugal, 5.7 percent of the more than 13,000 people
tried before church tribunals in the 16th and early 17th century
were condemned to death.
Clarks Martyrology counts the number of Waldensian
martyrs during the first half of the 13th century in France
alone at two million. From A.D. 1160-1560 the Waldensians that dwelt
in the Italian Alps were visited with 36 different fierce
persecutions that spared neither age nor sex (Thomas Armitage, A
History of the Baptists, "Post-Apostolic Times -- The
Waldensians," 1890). They were almost completely
destroyed as a people and most of their literary record
was erased from the face of the
earth.
From the year 1540 to 1570 "it is proved by
national authentic testimony, that nearly one million of
Protestants were publicly put to death in various countries in
Europe, besides all those who were privately destroyed, and
of whom no human record exists" (J.P. Callender,
Illustrations of Popery, 1838, p. 400).
"From the birth of Popery in 606 to the present
time, it is estimated by careful and credible historians, that more
than fifty millions
of the human family, have been slaughtered for the crime of
heresy by popish persecutors, an average of more than forty thousand
religious murders for every year of the existence of
popery." -- "History of Romanism," pp. 541, 542. New
York: 1871.
These are no kin of
mine.
Maybe they are your
forefathers?
That is why you are trying to
cover?
Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
You are far too sophisticated for
this old boy from Canada, Kevin. Believers (DM seems to prefer
this word over 'Christians'. I honestly think that if you're one
of 'em then, it doesn't really matter what you call 'em.) are
capable of doing some bad stuff. Some of that 'bad stuff' is
really bad stuff.
For example: Some of those in Rwanda
who perpetrated the genocide were believers. There are other
examples but, I'll leave it there.
'NEW WORLD ORDER'??? You're not one
of those conspiracy theory types are you?
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March 01, 2006 20:21
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?
Lance wrote: Believers in
all religions are equal opportunity
'throat slitters'
In one little statement you accomplish:
1)Your affinity with murderous religious thugs (since you
are a member of the set "ALL RELIGIONS")
2)The inability of true believers to understand Jesus
words
Jhn 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is
not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would
my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
3) make the victims of the drownings, hangings, burnings,
& the sword deserving of such treatment and as morally
wrong as the religious murderers (RC & Reformed
RC's) (surely in your eyes being a part of "all religions"
they would do the same.
In spite of the historical facts that some do not have
BLOOD on their hands!)
Jhn 16:2 They shall put you out of the
synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you
will think that he doeth God service.
The OLD WORLD ORDER is the same as the NEW WORLD ORDER
The names have been changed to protect the guilty.
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