Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

[Lance Muir]

Welcome into the 'room', DH. IMO, an excellent presentation. As foreman of this jury, I'll pronounce the verdict just after..............  ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 05, 2006 12:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? DAVEH:   Dean, from what you said previously about the oneness of husband and wife, if I were to ask you about your wife's sexual history, you would take that as a personal attack on your wife and would then presume it to be a personal attack on you as well, and then proceed to come to Portland and show up on my doorstep.....is that correct?  Wouldn't it be smarter just to say the same thing to me via email or a phone call, rather than show up on my doorstep?  What would be accomplished by coming to Portland?      If I were then to assume you are on my doorstep for a reason other than an amicable discussion, and felt my life was being threatened by your presence on my doorstep, I would probably not answer the door.  Wouldn't that just frustrate your reason for going to all that effort, cost, time and travel in an effort to come to my doorstep?  Would you proceed to pound on my door expecting me to open it?  If I did not respond to your pounding, then what would you do?  And if you continued to pound on my door, what would you do if I opened it with a gun in my hand, as I might do if I perceived you as being a threat to me in my home?      At that point, if you turned and left, nothing else would happen and you would have spent a lot of effort for little reason other than to satisfy your pride.  If on the other hand you were to raise the level of confrontation by arguing, and if I misunderstood the reasons you were on my doorstep confronting me and refusing to leave, would you be surprised if it led to a lethal action on my part?     IF that above scenario were to occur, how do you think the law would view this matter?  Would I be found guilty of manslaughter, or would you be guilty of threatening my life to the point of my using justifiable lethal means in self-defense?  In my defense, I'm sure my lawyer would quote your comment........ one should not connect two thoughts together that one does not intent to belong together-it will most certainly led others to mistake your meaning. ..........as evidence to show that you are quite aware that you know that showing up on my doorstep could be mistakenly understood as an act of aggression.  So Dean, knowing this, why would you continue to say....... I will show up at their door and they can explain their remarks to me .......when you know it is likely your reason for showing up will most certainly led others to mistake your meaning?  Wouldn't it be much smarter to instead discuss such matters at a non-threatening distance........IOW, why can't those remarks be discussed over the phone or via email?     In a subsequent post, with regard to using a weapon...... I would use one to protect my family. .......it might be construed that hearing the discussion of sexual matters regarding your wife would make you think it is justifiable to use violent means when going to the offenders doorstep.  Even other TTers have implied that your threats could be considered to be serious.... cd's gonna have to send her a sawed off Kalishnikov just to protect herself from you, Bro ........and...... he thinks that semi-auto & sawed off self-defense is pretty good (for protectin' his & her) religion, Bro, and he's the moderator ........not to mention the comments of one excommunicated TTer who was willing to take you to the mat.  So Dean, I will repeat me above question....would it not be wiser to simply discuss such matters from a distance, rather than provoke a situation that might rage out of control?  Why would you feel compelled to physically confront the one with whom you disagree? Dean Moore wrote Dean:It was verbally explicit. I believed you! Were you not telling the truth? cd: Meant every word of it Lance-If someone asks my wife such question I will show up at their door and they can explain their remarks to me.What you choose to take as a violence act if up to your imagine-for most people see what they want to see. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.