Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

[Judy Taylor]

What's this "stream of consciousness" business...  don't you think before you speak Lance? I'm all for "freedom of speech" - for instance you are free to disagree and state that "badmouthing GWB is a sign of intellectualism or intelligence" if you want.   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 10:06:59 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: This goes back to 'badmouthing GWB is at best ignorance', Judy. It's kinda like shutting down free speech'. Thus, the subsequent comment on democracy. I'm accustomed to my own stream of consciousness thinking but, surprised when I find it in others. (you) From: Judy Taylor   What is your comment supposed to mean Lance? What does GWB have to do with what I have been discussing? As I have noted before - you are forever locked into the personal   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:11:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I believe GWB to be sincere also. From: Judy Taylor   The lines may be blurred in countries like the US, Canada, Australia, and the UK (to all but the SP's :) However, they are quite apparent to anyone who has lived in a third world country recently.  I was commenting on the article in the current National Geographic about the Ukraine which shows a photo of a peninsula there with mansions on it.  Our Missions friend told me this is the fruit of graft, corruption, and the Russian Mafia which have risen to the top of the heap rather quickly.  Our island born SIL can tell you the same about his homeland. Whoever rises to the top in Government treats the treasury like their own checkbook and their children are the ones who go overseas to attend the best schools.    Of course there is a lot of it in the countries named above also, we observe Congress giving themselves raises all the time and a Congressman who just spent 20yrs in prison will still get his pension whereas a serviceman would have to forfeit his... so although imperfect - with checks and balances in place our system still beats any in the third world until the Lord returns to straighten it all out for us.   Maranatha!!   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:47:36 -0500 Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The United States of America is not a Democracy Lance; it is a Democratic Republic - which is good training because God's Kingdom is not a "Democracy" either. You should be relieved that the will of fallen humanity is not on the throne.   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:28:53 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: How could one ask for more than to be present on a 'chat room' where ppl illustrate the absence of a democratic frame of mind? From: Judy Taylor   Badmouthing GWB is at best ignorance. Our youngest girl's flatmate was a missionary to the Ukraine for 5yrs and has just gotten back from a trip to Germany by way of the Ukraine to visit her friends there. She speaks Russian and when the plane couldn't land because of fog was able to translate for the Ukrainians on board who had to return to Budapest and spend the night. She tells me that men come from all over to look for a wife in the Ukraine and there were two of them from the US on her flight one of whom must have been a disciple of whoever Lance is listening to because he badmouthed GWB the entire time in a loud voice.     From: Kevin Deegan SP's are really Secret Agents for GWB! LOL Are you a conspiracy theorist? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DH:TT has a NEW POPE! You're just going to have to adjust. IMO your mystification re:SP types ain't a mystery. Preach the (their) gospel (their doctrine) by any means whatsoever. As they see it the end justifies the means. Though you and I are most assuredly not of one mind as to Jesus yet, we are seen as occupying the same camp. That camp is the camp of the lost/damned/bound for hell. I do see why they do what they do. This is the same sort of logic employed by their commander in chief over the Middle East. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 02:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? to clear the confusion one should be able to prove their charge they make against others. DAVEH:   That's what I asked you to do when you made a false accusation about me (condoning violence) a few months back.  Your response was that you didn't know how to use the archives, and that is was my responsibility to prove that I didn't say something that I didn't say.  Which is logically illogical. So what is you better idea? DAVEH:  Practice what you preach. By the way I can change the rules if there is good reason to do so-but you cannot. DAVEH:  Ahhhhhhh......May I assume this is your perception of fairness?!?!?!     When I joined TT, it was proudly proclaimed there was only one rule in TT.  It seems several moderators have put that fallacy to rest. you show no hesitation provoking me-Why is that? DAVEH:  I'm not sure, Dean.  I find SPers to be cut from a different bolt of cloth.  It seems like some SPers live in a different world, where they are in constant battle with everybody, including some that at first appear to be on their side of the fence.  Other than the few Spers I've found on TT, I really don't have much experience with them, so I find how they think and operate to be rather interesting.  (e.g., Waving underwear in the faces of those they want to convert.)  To me it seems such a strange way to sell a product, so to speak.  Yet some SPers seem (from my perspective) to lack a measure of _______(I'll leave it for the reader to fill in the word), which to me seems at odds with their mission statement.  So I've got to wonder what makes them tick....just what is it that makes SPers the way they are.  I don't know if that makes much sense, Dean.  It's late and I suppose I'm just rambling on.... with the way things are going He should be able to read it here in a short amount of time. DAVEH:   ???   What's that mean, Dean?  Are you going to invite the Bishop of TT to return? The truth is not Ad. Hom attacks if one can prove his point to a reasonable conclusion(whose conclusion? Why mine decision of course) DAVEH:   Did the rules change, Dean?  Are the rules being modified on the fly to suit the needs of the moderator???   As a moderator, is that what you consider to be fair?  Moderator: No, DaveH but there are many levels of Ad. Hom attacking going on here so to clear the confusion one should be able to prove their charge they make against others. One should not knock an idea unless one can offer a better one or lose credibility-So what is you better idea?I am all ears. By the way I can change the rules if there is good reason to do so-but you cannot. (maybe he found love for me after all.) DAVEH:   We all love you, Dean.  I'm just not sure we all can tolerate, let alone survive, you!  Moderator: For someone who expresses concerns about surviving me-you show no hesitation provoking me-Why is that? Also love a little harder as it isn't quite coming through my computer Dave.        (I'll copy this to John, as he may appreciate the irony in it.) Moderator : Just save it-with the way things are going He should be able to read it here in a short amount of time. Dean Moore wrote: Moderator: No-The truth is not Ad. Hom attacks if one can prove his point to a reasonable conclusion(whose conclusion? Why mine decision of course)-Please explanation after my coming chastisement from David.But don't jump the gun and attack me as he seems to be hesitating(maybe he found love for me after all.)-and if wrong you will still be dealing with a moderator-that will not take any crap:-)   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk? DAVEH:   Dean, does this not qualify as an ad-hom? Dean Moore wrote: cd:   ....or lose all creditability as Lance had done in my opinion of this matter.   -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.