Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

[Judy Taylor]

You still haven't answered my query ... What does "teachable" look like to you? or How do you - Lance Muir determine whether or not one is "teachable?"   On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 06:13:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 1. I DO NOT BELIEVE that none on TT is teachable! 2. 'personal brand of humility'? NO!  From: Judy Taylor   I like what Iz says also Lance; but I am curious about your definition since you are constantly making public note of the fact that noone who differs from you on TT is "teachable"  I'd appreciate hearing it from you - not DM, BT, JS, Caroline, Debie or Slade, especially since you have been so critical of DM and accuse him of being dense or thick or something like this.  IMO BT has nothing to teach others on this subject until he begins to demonstrate some of it in his own life and this applies to others on your list also.   Why do you never respond to questions and \always seem to defer them to someone else.  Is this your own personal brand of humility?     On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 05:00:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: One could not but AMEN that, Iz. Well said. From: ShieldsFamily Being teachable is a state of heart.  A lack of pride.  A humility.  A brokenness.  Eagerness to repent.  iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir It is not necessary, Judy. DM, BT, JS, Caroline, Debbie & Slade have all attempted to do so, unsuccessfully. I perceive each to be superior to me so.......... From: Judy Taylor Can you describe what you call "being teachable" looks like for us Lance?   On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 06:33:12 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There is a rather large distinction between agreeing with you Kevin, and being teachable. From: Kevin Deegan Your not teachable Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did you send your kids to SS? Do you have no evangelistic mtgs where you are? Do some in attendance at either ever get converted? Do you have other names you prefer over 'conversion', Kevin. That you Kevin, believe yourself 'fully known (Paul's) doctrine' I've no doubt. I'd recommend to the moderator that we all take a hiatus from writing and, just let you teach us.   From: Kevin Deegan  Paul said: But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,   Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery BTW what is wrong with preaching Jesus Christ? or should we preach SS & Conversion at our evangelistic meetings? Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: DH:TT has a NEW POPE! You're just going to have to adjust. IMO your mystification re:SP types ain't a mystery. Preach the (their) gospel (their doctrine) by any means whatsoever. As they see it the end justifies the means. Though you and I are most assuredly not of one mind as to Jesus yet, we are seen as occupying the same camp. That camp is the camp of the lost/damned/bound for hell. I do see why they do what they do. This is the same sort of logic employed by their commander in chief over the Middle East. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 08, 2006 02:03 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?   to clear the confusion one should be able to prove their charge they make against others. DAVEH:   That's what I asked you to do when you made a false accusation about me (condoning violence) a few months back.  Your response was that you didn't know how to use the archives, and that is was my responsibility to prove that I didn't say something that I didn't say.  Which is logically illogical. So what is you better idea? DAVEH:  Practice what you preach. By the way I can change the rules if there is good reason to do so-but you cannot. DAVEH:  Ahhhhhhh......May I assume this is your perception of fairness?!?!?!     When I joined TT, it was proudly proclaimed there was only one rule in TT.  It seems several moderators have put that fallacy to rest. you show no hesitation provoking me-Why is that? DAVEH:  I'm not sure, Dean.  I find SPers to be cut from a different bolt of cloth.  It seems like some SPers live in a different world, where they are in constant battle with everybody, including some that at first appear to be on their side of the fence.  Other than the few Spers I've found on TT, I really don't have much experience with them, so I find how they think and operate to be rather interesting.  (e.g., Waving underwear in the faces of those they want to convert.)  To me it seems such a strange way to sell a product, so to speak.  Yet some SPers seem (from my perspective) to lack a measure of _______(I'll leave it for the reader to fill in the word), which to me seems at odds with their mission statement.  So I've got to wonder what makes them tick....just what is it that makes SPers the way they are.  I don't know if that makes much sense, Dean.  It's late and I suppose I'm just rambling on.... with the way things are going He should be able to read it here in a short amount of time. DAVEH:   ???   What's that mean, Dean?  Are you going to invite the Bishop of TT to return?   The truth is not Ad. Hom attacks if one can prove his point to a reasonable conclusion(whose conclusion? Why mine decision of course) DAVEH:   Did the rules change, Dean?  Are the rules being modified on the fly to suit the needs of the moderator???   As a moderator, is that what you consider to be fair?  Moderator: No, DaveH but there are many levels of Ad. Hom attacking going on here so to clear the confusion one should be able to prove their charge they make against others. One should not knock an idea unless one can offer a better one or lose credibility-So what is you better idea?I am all ears. By the way I can change the rules if there is good reason to do so-but you cannot. (maybe he found love for me after all.) DAVEH:   We all love you, Dean.  I'm just not sure we all can tolerate, let alone survive, you!  Moderator: For someone who expresses concerns about surviving me-you show no hesitation provoking me-Why is that? Also love a little harder as it isn't quite coming through my computer Dave.        (I'll copy this to John, as he may appreciate the irony in it.) Moderator : Just save it-with the way things are going He should be able to read it here in a short amount of time. Dean Moore wrote: Moderator: No-The truth is not Ad. Hom attacks if one can prove his point to a reasonable conclusion(whose conclusion? Why mine decision of course)-Please explanation after my coming chastisement from David.But don't jump the gun and attack me as he seems to be hesitating(maybe he found love for me after all.)-and if wrong you will still be dealing with a moderator-that will not take any crap:-)   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?   DAVEH:   Dean, does this not qualify as an ad-hom? Dean Moore wrote: cd:   ....or lose all creditability as Lance had done in my opinion of this matter.   --   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Dave Hansen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.langlitz.com  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  If you wish to receive  things I find interesting,  I maintain six email lists...  JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS,  STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. --   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Dave Hansen  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.langlitz.com  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  If you wish to receive  things I find interesting,  I maintain six email lists...  JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS,  STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and   CLIPS.   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com