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Doesn't it make you just beam with pride, the
appropriate kind of course, being exposed to the handiwork of two such fine
representatives of 'their' gospel as DEAN AND KEVIN! IFO speak often of them. I
share their posts with friends who then say things like................
Sent: March 12, 2006 02:52
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] spirit of
Hinn]
What could his intentions really
be?
DAVEH: I don't know. I'm only hearing one side
of the story, and without knowing his inner thoughts and circumstances, it
would be difficult for anybody to judge him.
if you were to
impune those present or SP's would tha t include
me?
DAVEH: Only if you were guilty. Just because
you are one of the SPers does not mean that you are a bad one, if that
is the proper way to put it.
why you do not see this as
ADHOM.
DAVEH: Because I did not name you as one
teaching the guy to do what he did. If you feel guilty by association,
then that is your problem. Maybe I am wrong, but if DavidM had
been there, I can't imagine him doing anything to influence the guy to do what
he did. Though DavidM is certainly a SPer, if he didn't do anything, he
ain't guilty, even though he may associate with those who are guilty. I
hope that makes some sense....
Since it is one of the rules, we
are stuck with it
DAVEH: Apparently, rules really
bother some SPers. If a moderator doesn't want to follow one of the
rules, and then makes up rules to keep somebody else from posting material the
moderator doesn't like....doesn't that qualify as a double
standard?
I would not want you to think that I believe that
the ends justify the means.
DAVEH: Thanx
for the clarification, Kevin. Sometimes it seems that you do believe
that way when you post LDS related material and draw inaccurate conclusions
about it.
I am not a Lying Protestant!
DAVEH: Hmmmmmmm.......putting it that way, one might
conclude you are claiming to be a truthful Protestant.
DAVEH: Is that not one of the possibilities to consider
when a person seems seems sensitive to an issue?
Thanks Dave, you are one of the only people on TT that really shows
such understanding. As you have correctly figured, I am a very sensitive
guy, I am just a real cream puff!
Well if one followed the thread you were responding to Dean as to his
comment that a Mormon had encouraged SP's to tear pics of the LDS 'prophet',
He even supplied the pics. AS it was implied he was not the nicest guy in
Salt Lake. What could his intentions really be? Would he
qualify as let me borrow the term "snake"? He betrays his own religion.
"DH .....Sounds like something he learned
from SPers."
Seeing as I was present and I am a SP and very possibly PUBLIC ENEMY #2
as to the LDS, if you were to impune those present or SP's would tha t
include me? I don't see why you do not see this as
ADHOM. as an aside, I am actually against such a rule and think it
is foolish we do more talk about ADHOM than any other subject. As you might
have noticed I posted yesterday some verses that show that Paul under
fullness of the Holy Ghost attacked the person of Elymas. There is a use for
labels and it is just that; to IDENTIFY. The Erroneous use of labels is in
attempting to use them as a part of a "logical" argument. Since it is
one of the rules, we are stuck with it. I see the intent of the
rule since who wants to read O yeah yur mutha wears combat boots
(excuse me PLEAZE, keep your hat on, Gary)
As to why I might seem sensitive.
I would not want you to think that I believe that the
ends justify the means.
That there is anything such as
"lying f or the lord" LDS
"Theocratic War Stategy" (lying) Jehovah Witness
see Watchtower mag 1957 5/1 "Use Theocratic War Strategy"
Just Lies RC - Reformed Catholic- Reformed Confederate
Theocrats - Protestants
The commandment does not say
that "thou shalt never tell a lie."
"Rahab risked everything in order to
follow the laws of God, including telling Lies" John
Whitehead The Theology of Christian Resistance 1983
"But does God require us to tell the
truth at all times? Such a proposition is highly
questionable". R J Rushdoony Institutes of Biblical Law 1972 p
543
I am not a Lying Protestant!
There is something seriously perverted & wrong with anyone that
thinks it is RIGHT to Lie!!!! The long philosophic discussions of the
circumstances were lying may be employed, are very illuminating shows of the
darkness enveloping these minds. Doing wrong is NEVER RIGHT! The following
is not "HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE"!
THOU SHALT NOT LIE
What would give folks such thoughts?
Guilt?
What would give you such thoughts?
DAVEH: Is that not one
of the possibilities to consider when a person seems seems sensitive to an
issue? I can't imagine DavidM being sensitive to what I said about
SPers, yet you seemed to consider my comment an ad-hom.....why? Your
name wasn't mentioned. Not even was a specific action
mentioned. Yet it appeared as though you identified with something
underlying. Makes me wonder what makes you tick, Kevin....Do you
really think my speculative comment constitutes an ad-hom? If
so....specifically to whom is the ad-hom against?
Kevin Deegan
wrote:
Guilt? What would give you such thoughts?
Titus Unto the pure all things are
pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing
pure; but even their mind and conscience is
defiled.
Notice it i s persons that are defiled not their
thoughts/beliefs.
It is people that are cast into HELL not their beliefs!
Do you feel comfortable with SPers who do
such, or use other demeaning tactics such as waving
underwear?
Great peace have they which love thy law: and
nothing shall offend them.
Jesus taught that those that are offended have no root in
themselves MT 13:21 and can not endure.
Are you saying Mormons are ABOVE REPROACH?
Pr 15:10 Correction i s
grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof
shall die.
2 Tim 4:2-4 Preach the word; be instant in
season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort
with all longsuffering and doctrine.For the time will come when they
will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they
heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn
away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto
fables.
1 Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the
devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the
Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the
devil.
Pr 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret
love.
We are told in the Book of
Jude to contend for the faith which was
once delivered unto the saints.
Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be
agreed?
Lu 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give
peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
Pr 28:4 They that forsake the law praise the
wicked: but such as keep the law contend with them
Jn 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come
into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which
see might be made blind.
Does
this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your
eyes?
DAVEH: Naw.....It's just an observation,
Kevin. Why do think it is an ad-hom? Did you feel a twinge
of guilt when reading it? I would be very surprised if a SPers
such as I imagine DavidM to be would fee guilty, as I can't imagine
him using simular tactics. But if it struck a sensitive nerve
with you....well, I suppose I wouldn't be surprised.&nb sp;
However Kevin, I really don't know you very well. Do you feel
comfortable with SPers who do such, or use other demeaning tactics
such as waving underwear?
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Sure sounded like a set up to
me? You agree DaveH?
DAVEH:
Hmmmmmmm again.....Sounds like something he learned from
SPers.
WHAT are you implying DH? Does this come close to a NON
BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote: That wasn't not done out of
respect.
DAVEH:
Hmmmmmm.. .....Do you have any respect for Mormons,
Dean?
Sure
sounded like a set up to me? You agree
DaveH?
DAVEH:
Hmmmmmmm again.....Sounds like something he learned from
SPers.
Would a
Mormon High Priest do
such?
DAVEH: None that I
know would do such. Hmmmmmmm a third time......Perhaps he
was a SPer claiming to be MHP. If he was indeed a true
Mormon, I believe his actions were inappropriate, and I will
apologize to you in his behalf. However, I disl ike drawing
conclusions without hearing the his side of the
story.
Dave you
need to learn to separate the Moderator "Judge More" from Dean
Moore.
DAVEH: That's
a mistake I've seen other moderators use as an excuse for improper
behavior. Do you believe that separating Judge Dean from
Judge
More absolves you from responsible
behavior? If Judge Dean posts an ad-hom, would not be
reasonable to expect Judge More admonish
him? If not, then would Judge More be
practicing a double standard?
Perhaps I
do have trouble separating the
Moderator "Judge More" from Dean
Moore.....when I hear you say something
to the effect......
Group Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass
so I can give the "Provoker" some
attention
........I pretty much
hear Judge
More's voice, despite your claim that
it is Judge Dean's lips that are moving. I can't see which
side of the mouth you are speaking from, Judge Dean. I can
only read your words and interpret them a s coming from one who
intends to take no
prisoners.
All I meant
was that we are headed to our usual take no prisoners
debate.
DAVEH:
You are the one who called me a pagan, Judge Dean. If you
wish to refuse to apologize for making that ad-hom remark, and if
Judge Moore does not call you on the carpet for posting blatant
ad-homs, then would Judge Moore be justified in giving me the boot
if I merely referred to Judge Dean's _______(fill in the blank)
practices? Your take no prisoners
comment seems to imply TT is not
big enough for both of us, Judge Dean. Is that where you
want to go with this?
gave us copies
to tear up in from of the Temple-but we didn't do
so.
DAVEH:
Thank you for that measure of respect, Dean.
cd: That wasn't not done
out of respect. I just don't like being set up/used by
Mormons.He told us that Mormons loved the present Prophet
(so-called) more t hen they loved J. Smith-then gave us the
pictures then instructed us to tear them up in front of
the Temple. Sure sounded like a set up to me? You agree
DaveH? Would a Mormon High Priest do
such?
I guess I will Get DavH off you
back
DAVEH: ???
Does that mean you have your finger on the EXECUTE
DavH
button, Judge Dean? Has Kevin been complaining about me
bothering him lately? I don't recall saying anything to
him recently that woul d be disrespectful......But if he wants
me gone, it is within your power to carry out his
wishes.
cd: Dave you need to learn
to separate the Moderator "Judge More" from Dean Moore.
All I meant was that we are headed to our usual
take no prisoners
debate.
Group Please keep
off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the "Provoker" some
attention
DAVEH: How
considerate of you, Judge Dean! I guess I should
fee privileged that you are willing to devote all your
attention to me to the exclusion of other TTers. It does
seem a bit selfish though.....as you seem to want to smoke all
the Ad. Hom.
grass yourself!!! Just
don't inhale though, as you might choke on it......
=-O
cd: Sound like you also like a good
fight-You admitted to provocking me and I am answering your
caslling out and I am standing here Mormon-lets get on
with it Pagan.
Dean Moore wrote:
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cd: Ouch:-) Hey I
have that picture in mutli's-The High Priest that Ruben hung
out (what was his name?)with gave us copies to tear up
in from of the Temple-but we didn't do so. Kevin
I gue ss I will Get DavH off you back for a while as
soon as David shows of-or better yet I might as well get
stated on that:-)So I will be busy for a while-Group
Please keep off the Ad. Hom. grass so I can give the
"Provoker" some attention.
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