who's statue is on
top of your temple in SLC?
DAVEH: The angel Moroni, who is depicted as heralding the return of
our Savior, Jesus Christ.
Didn't look like Jesus
to me?
DAVEH: Have you seen Jesus?
Jesus spoke of a literal burning hell
DAVEH: ??? Do you have Scriptural references to back that up, Dean?
My Jesus said that
there were no marrying or giving of marriage in Heaven
DAVEH: Perhaps you have misunderstood Jesus, Dean. That marriages
would not take place in heaven is not disputed. Whether or not those
relationships exist in heaven is another concept that you are not
addressing.
What did you Jesus
say on this subject?
DAVEH: The Lord suggested that marriages that are authoritatively
sealed in mortality....
[Mt 18:18] Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth
shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall
be loosed in heaven.
..........will remain in effect in heaven. Furthermore, Jesus
warned.....
[Mk 10:9] What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put
asunder.
........so Dean, do you really think God does not want man and wife to
be together in heaven?
My Jesus said that
there is only one God in heaven
DAVEH: That many Christians describe as one of three forms, seemingly
ignoring that fact that each of those forms is referred to as God.
What did you Jesus
say again?
[Ex 18:11] Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods: for in
the thing wherein they dealt proudly he was above them.
[Eph 4:5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
[6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and
in you all.
........It seems obvious that there is a plurality of Gods, but there
is only one to whom we should worship.
My Jesus say that he
was the way to heaven
DAVEH: With stipulations.
Your religion say
that in order to enter heaven one must come through the Temple/ J.
Smith-Why?
DAVEH: Why......When
seeking the Lord, would you not expect to find him in the Lord's House?
Your Jesus is not
the Christ of the bible
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Dean.
you DavH are a
Pagan-Therefore no apology will be given
DAVEH: I'm sorry to hear that, Judge Dean. Then I will request that
Judge Moore reprimand you for using a personal attack, which in TT is
breaking the ad-hom rule.
if you can prove me
wrong them of course I will indeed apologize to you
DAVEH: Breaking the ad-hom rule is evidence of your wrongness, Judge
Dean. I await the apology.
good challenge
makes one stronger ( or course this can also break a Weak Man'
DavH)-which are you Iron or clay?
DAVEH: Neither.....Wouldn't you say that I am somewhat like
Kevin......a cream puff?!?!?!
:-)
an
Idol worshiper a Pagan
DAVEH: As I see it Dean, I don't worship idols. So for you to call me
a pagan would be a false accusation. Do I get an apology for making
that false representation?
cd; Really-Then
pray tell me who's statue is on top of your temple in SLC?
Didn't look like Jesus to me? My Jesus spoke of a literal
burning hell-What did you Jesus describe hell as being? My
Jesus said that there were no marrying or giving of marriage in Heaven-What
did you Jesus say on this subject? My Jesus said that
there is only one God in heaven-What did you Jesus say
again? My Jesus say that he was the way to heaven-
Your religion say that in order to enter heaven one must come
through the Temple/ J. Smith-Why? Your Jesus is not the
Christ of the bible DavH-therefore you are worshipping
another Christ- therefore you DavH are a Pagan-Therefore no
apology will be given.-as I only apologize for speaking/doing
wrong not for truth Dave.But if you can prove me wrong them of
course I will indeed apologize to you-so far you have failed to
do so-try harder-a good challenge makes one stronger ( or course
this can also break a Weak Man' DavH)-which are you Iron or clay?
if not then can I wittiness on TT?
DAVEH: Your wittiness on TT surely brings a smile to many,
Judge Dean! :-)
cd: Ahh-But I have been hearing the echo of my voice
on this site. You forget I am not alone in this indever and can do
nothing without my redeemer. Fools will alway mock truth-right up to
the point they stand before God -then the laughter turns to great
trembling. By the way I have told you that I did not like the name
Judge Dean-yet you continue to do so- How is this not Ad. Hom? You also
forget that I have not been removed from the Job of Moderator as yet
Dave-better stop-consider this your second warning too behave.
Dean Moore wrote:
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH is a
pagan ?????
They'd be of their father the devil - at least
that's how I understand it. jt
cd; But we cannot tell them that here Judy-Wonder if
we can call a Sodomite a queer on TT? Or can we call a Homo a Sodomite
without offending him?How about calling a Homo- Gay? How about calling
a idol worshipper an Idol worshiper or an Idol worshiper a Pagan.I
mean- what can we call those that do such thing-Christians?Do we have
to refer to all as the Godly-as not to offend them and the owner of
this site? Can we as Christians even express the Truth of what category
God places the infidels on this site-No! As the name infidels can
offend the infidel.We are commanded by God to carry his message all
over the world-but we not allowed to do so on TT? I say if one is
placed into a category them let the one that spoke the truth prove this
is what the person is-and if the shoe fits let them wear it-at least
then one will know in which he stands in the judgement.That is by no
means harming others-on the contrary it is helping others-and I for on
e would be afraid of the God that co
mmanded His to do suc h if I stood against such a
command-anywhere/anytime. That is the exact reason I did not hinder
Sarah from preaching in SLC.One should wait and hear if the preachers
is speaking truth-and if so be silent. In my short life I have learned
that God's word does indeed shed light on groups and individuals-it
exposed the works of darkness for what they are-can my light shine on
TT-if not then can I wittiness on TT?If not-am I not directed to
go to the next town after shaking the dust off my feet as a testimony AGAINST
them? Yes I am Judy!
Isa 58:1 Cry aloud,
spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and show my people their
transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
So would they
be called Pagan christians?
Idol
worshipping christians?
Non christian
christian?
Because some ppl teach that you can cling to
pagan ideas and still be a Christian since everyone was included in the
"incarnation" right JD?
DH can make the point but let me chime in here,
as well.
"You .. are a pagan" is not the same as "Your
beliefs are pagan>"
Those who have eyes, let them see, Lord. jd
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree,
Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why
is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your
person?
Seriously;
can you expound? KD
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree,
Judge Dean. To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom
Why
is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your
person?
Seriously;
can you expound?
I called you a Mormon-to which you
do not deny-You called me a Christian to wit I did not deny. By doing
so you separated the two-and as receiving the first (Mormon) and
tagging me with the second(Christian) you have clearly showed yourself
to be non Christian
DAVEH: What kind of convoluted logic is that, Judge Dean??? Does any
other TTer who understands what Dean said above, agree with his
explanation?
You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean. To me, your above
comment is a blatant ad-hom, and I will request Judge Moore take the
appropriate action if you do not wish to ap ologize.
he fact that you do not follow the
teaching of Jesus Christ
DAVEH: Is that coming from Judge Dean, or Judge Moore?
Get over
it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack
DAVEH: Really?!?!?!?! Did you just make a new TT rule, Judge Moore?
Or was that Judge Dean expressing his unfounded wishes?
state a
petition to impeach me
DAVEH: Seems to me that you are doing a good job of it on your own.
I am not
Judge Dean< /STRONG>
DAVEH: Then am I to assume that every time you pass judgment, you are
speaking as Judge Moore?
by your standards isn't that Ad.
Homein attacking
DAVEH: ??? I thought we were playing the game by your standards,
Judge Dean! Hence.....Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack according
to you.
< FONT face=A rial
color=#0000ff>I
will have to go to the Moderator
DAVEH: I've not had much luck with him, but I suspect he will listen
to you.
Are
you implying Dean called you such NAMES?
DAVEH: I'll let Judge Dean answer that, Kevin..........I say/demand again "
Get the "Church of Jesus Christ" name off your temple Pagan!!!
cd: Hey- that
is Judge Moore to you buddy. You are the one that put a separation
between Christianity and Mormonism-in you comment -and when I declare
that by doing so this is Paganism you state crying .
My Comment:
Is it the
Mormon in you doing such-or are you just plain mean?
Your reply:
So let me ask you, Dean......Is
it the Christian in you doing such-or are you just plain mean?
I called you a Mormon-to which you
do not deny-You called me a Christian to wit I did not deny. By doing
so you separated the two-and as receiving the first (Mormon) and
tagging me with the second(Christian) you have clearly showed yourself
to be non Christian-To be non-Christian is to be a Pagan. You DaveH are a Pagan.The
fact that you do not follow the teaching of Jesus Christ is a
deeper conformation of that point.
Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack-
or state a petition to impeach me.I am not Judge Dean -by your standards isn't
that Ad. Homein attacking-better stop or I will have to go to the Moderator.Hey -Judge
Moore Moderate this!
Kevin Deegan wrote:
Are you implying
Dean called you such NAMES?
Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Dave
why are you trying to fuel dissection between the groups?
DAVEH: Hmmmmmmmm........well, I hadn't thought about dissecting
you guys, but it is a tempting thought you've given me! ;-)
Is it the Mormon in you doing
such-or are you just plain mean?
DAVEH: LOL......Sometimes I think SPers are their own worst enemy!
You have the power to push the button that bars me from TT, Dean. If
you do such, I don't think your problems will all go with me. I've
been called a pagan here, a snake in the grass, satan's
messenger boy........and I've been falsely accused of condoning
violence against SPers. So let me ask you, Dean......Is it
the Christian in you doing such-or are you just plain mea n?
Dean Moore wrote:
cd:Dave why are you trying to
fuel dissection between the groups??Is it the Mormon in you
doing such-or are you just plain mean?.
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The latter.
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IFO would
not have such an assessment of anyone on TT.
DAVEH: Is that is because you do not consider yourself a protected
friend of the moderator and fear reprisal, Lance.... .or is it because
you have a measure of respect for TT rules and other TTers?
Lance Muir wrote:
So
Kevin, at least I know where we stand. Thanks for the clarity in your
judgment. IFO would not have such an assessment of anyone on TT.
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