IFO believe Kevin's sect simply leaps, spiritually speaking of course, from
'a' to 'z'. This is why he's had so much difficulty, from time to time, with
you and your sect, David.
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From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Sent: March 13, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
Interesting take here, JD. It appears that you think Kevin would never
say
to the brethren with whom he is in fellowship, "I, brethren, could not
speak
unto you as spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ."
Is that really what you think?
I'm not reading this in Kevin. I guess I need to go back and review some
of
his posts. Better yet, Kevin, can you inform us about this. Have you
ever
told fellow believers that they were so carnal that you had to go over the
a, b, c's? I suspect you have found yourself in this position quite
often.
David Miller
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
Two things: First, if you reference David's comments - I happen to
agree
with David.
Secondly -- I think a theology that cancels out such scriptures as I
Cor
3:1ff is a theology from the Accuser. Such thinking mocks the written
word
and renders the application of scripture to be left to the whim of the
competing disciples. Perhaps this cannot be avoided - but such thinking
demands that outcome.
My theology, a biblically based thinking, allows me the freedom to speak
the very words written in I Cor 3:1 -- those who disagree relegate this
passage to history and give it no modern day application. Sad.
jd
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I'd like to hear jd's response to this post. He keeps acting like his one
little loophole verse not only contradicts, but overrules, the entire
rest
of the Bible. iz
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:22 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
Kevin wrote:
> Do you see Jesus & Paul using your
> Dictionary definition of Christian?
Jesus never used the term Christian and never even heard the term
"Christian." Paul was known as a Nazarene (Acts 24:5) and he offers us no
definition for the word Chris tian. I see the word as refering to those
who
profess to follow the teaching of Christ. People can argue about whether
others actually do follow Christ or not, but that seems to me to be
another
debate. When more than 80% of people in the United States identify
themselves as being a Christian, it seems to me that it would not be very
productive to spend our time trying to argue with them that they are not
really Christian at all. Does being a Christian save anybody? No. Faith
in the person of Jesus Christ is what saves. I think that gets lost when
we
focus too much on the sect of Christianity and its rightful definition.
Do you think that there is something holy or special about the word
"Christian" for the Bible believer?
As for Anti-Christs being Christian, well, of course that will be the
case.
Judas Iscariot was a Nazarene and look how he turned out. Should we
expect
Christianity to be pure and void of any Judas Iscariots? I don't think
so.
David Miller
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Is a Mormon a Christian?
Do you see Jesus & Paul using your Dictionary definition of Christian?
Under this definition then, a decieved one who follows ANTI Christ is
truly
a Christian!
1) He truly Believes he is worshipping Jesus Christ
2) He truly believes the one he is following was sent by God
3) He follows his teachings and example
But in reality he is a hell bound sinner.
Help me contextualize, this apparent contradiction
David Miller wrote:
Judy wrote:
> What reason would anyone on TT have
> to assume that a lifelong Mormon is also
> a Chr istian?
Following is how my dictionary defines a Christian:
Chris.tian
noun (plural Chris.tians)
1. believer in Jesus Christ as savior: somebody who believes that Jesus
Christ was sent to the world by God to save humanity, and who tries to
follow his teachings and example
If we accept the secular definition of believer as somebody who believes
in
the teachings of a particular religious faith, then from my perspective ,
Mormonism falls into this category of Christian. This does not mean that
they have the right belief system, or that any of them will be saved. It
simply places them in the Christian category, as a religious sect that is
centered on the idea that Jesus Christ is the Savior sent by God to save
humanity. There are false sects within Christianity, and I think the
Mormon
sects are among them.
David Miller.
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