John wrote:
> To your first question , "no."

If I get time, I will try and present some of it for you.

John wrote:
> To your second question, either you
> did not read my post or you have
> decided to insult my presentation?

I read your post very carefully.  I am not trying to insult you at all. 
Most of your argument revolves around why we should consider using a 
figurative meaning.  This is the approach I hear from most Bible scholars, 
but the pressure for doing this seems to come from science not good 
theology, in my opinion.

The strongest statement you make is where you point out that Gen. 2:4 uses 
the word day figuratively.  This is easily understood to be figurative, but 
the uses of the word day prior to this are numbered.  The text says, First 
Day, Second Day, Third Day, etc.  It is hard to insist that numbered days 
are figurative.  It is the numbering of the day as well as its coupling with 
the evening and morning statements that makes it difficult to perceive it as 
being anything other than a specific time period measured by evening and 
morning.  You would have to argue that evening and morning were greatly 
extended, or that they too are figurative, to maintain the figurative 
chronology that you hold onto.  There is the added problem of having plants 
created long before the sun, moon, and stars?  Not likely from a biologist's 
perspective.  So, in all, your perspective is not the most parsimonious 
explanation.  I remain skeptical of the figurative interpretation.

What bothers me about the approach many theologians take to Genesis 1 is 
that rather than trying to show from the text itself why the meaning must be 
figurative, they just find ways to try and show why it could be read this 
way.  I have no trouble understanding that it might be read this way.  I 
have trouble with the idea that it should be read this way.

What is the motivation for making it figurative?  I believe the motivation 
is cultural.  It seems to me that if it were not for science and the claims 
of science, theologians would not be taking a figurative approach to Genesis 
1.  Do you see it different?  Is there any way to argue directly from the 
text (any thing in the Bible anywhere) for a very long process of creation?

David Miller

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John, I have a couple questions for you.

1.  Have you ever read John Whitcomb's theological treatment concerning the
length of the day in Genesis 1?  I have read his perspective and even
discussed this personally with him before, but he comes from a theology
background and I come from a science background, so I don't know how well he
is accepted as a "theologian."  His arguments for why the day is not
figurative made a lot of sense to me.

2.  Is there any THEOLOGICAL or TEXTUAL reason for you treating the day
figuratively?  In other words, I don't have a problem with someone saying
that perhaps we should take the meaning figuratively, but I wonder if there
is any reason other than reconciliing with the assertions of science that a
theologian or Bible scholar would interpret the word day in Genesis 1 as
figurative.  If we only had the Bible and the Holy Spirit guiding us, what
would be the reasons to view the day figuratively in Genesis 1?

David Miller 

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