A long period of time has a end point Forever does not! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Judy, I have no idea as to the connection between your comments and > my mine, below? > > Also, do you not believe that "forever" can also mean "a long period > of time?" > > One more thing, quickly. I am not saying that "covenant Israel" is > unimportant to the biblical text or to our circumstance, today. But > I do not believe that Israel is set apart outside the body of Christ. > The mystery of the gospel is the revelation that renders such > thinking as "myth." He who is a real Jew is one who is circumcised > in the heart. > > Dispensationalism is an American theological invention. > > jd > > jd > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Genesis 13:14-15 > (14) And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from > him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art > northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: (15) For all > the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed > for ever. > > The lands where Abram lived is the land of Canaan, called Israel > today. That, then, is the Promised Land?that is why it is called the > Promised Land! > But for how long? Forever! The inheritance is to be an eternal > inheritance, which of necessity involves and includes everlasting > life! > If one inherits a piece of land, the deed must describe the exact > boundaries of the property. Is such a description given in this deed > of the land we may hope to inherit? The answer is found in Genesis > 15:18, "In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, > Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto > the great river, the river Euphrates." From the Nile River in Egypt, > to the Euphrates in the Near East! > We have all seen enough maps to know where that is, and I am sure we > all know it is not up in heaven somewhere, but right here on this > earth. "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs > according to the promise" (Galatians 3:29); and the promise?the > promise of eternal inheritance?is the land of Israel, from the Nile > clear to the Euphrates, here on this earth! God help us to put our > trust in the sure Word of God, not in the fables of men! > Other scriptures show that the territory of Christ's Kingdom is to > expand and spread until ultimately it shall include the whole earth. > See Romans 4:13. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and very > likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. a > man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield along > with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its critical > acclaim. > > Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an unregenerated > Floridian. > I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that such > was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit from > me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, came > into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in > establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and left > the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their > holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the > sites of any other world religion. > > That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the > blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical > conclusion. > > And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that I > do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the young > United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is today. > And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is reasonable > or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab world's > determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of compromise > is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had some regard > for the Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think it is > violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who are not > Muslim. > > But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very materialistic > people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in terms of matters > of faith and practice. Biblically speaking, Judaism reached full > term in Jesus Christ. It is not a sister religion. Where some > consider the Old Testament as the history of the Jewish people, I > really view it as the history of the Church. God's chosen are to > be found within the body of Christ. > > jd > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you know. > Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss a > chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who are > true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are anti-Christs > preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel. The Jews at > least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a special place > in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, because the Father > says they are His chosen people, and because one day Jesus will again > restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesnt that have any meaning > for you? izzy > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: > Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews who > do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning to > you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. " > There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. > > You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just maybe, > you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as bad as > possible and actually answer the above question. > > I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny from > church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this > forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who > deny the Lord you claim to serve. > I expect such conduct from you. > > jd > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: [TruthTalk] God's Covenant with Abram for the Promised > Land > Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:33:03 +0000 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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