Baloney. 

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2006-Not All Authority is Bad

Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on some 
occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES!


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From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 
2006-Not All Authority is Bad


> But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM
> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim
> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>
> Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has
> adopted the role of oppressor.
>
> ROTFL
> That is Ludicrous on the face of it.
> Where did you pick this whopper up?
>
> Perhaps you need a Geography lesson!
> http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html
> Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California,
> SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her
> size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil.  How dare Arab
> propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe
> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the
> lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of
> 22 Arab countries? How can the  13 million Jews in the world (almost 5
> million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of
> the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to  1.4 billion Muslims
> worldwide?
>
> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too!!!!!!!!
> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of
> David before he meets Goliath!
> LOL
>
>
>
> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd
>> 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly,
>> Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the
>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER.
>>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>   Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11
>>   Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin:
>> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>>
>>
>>   There is little point in talking with someone who knows me better
>> than I know me.   Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind
>> of narrowness that I disregard.
>>
>>   jd
>>
>>     -------------- Original message -------------- 
>>     From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>     Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church;
>> they will be become believers.  You say you don't dislike Jews more
>> than any other unbelievers.  It is obvious to me that you do.  Your
>> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing.  Izzy
>>
>>
>>
>>     Romans 11
>>     Israel Is Not Cast Away
>>      1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May
>> it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham,
>> of the tribe of Benjamin.
>>
>>      2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do
>> you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how
>> he pleads with God against Israel?
>>
>>      3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN
>> YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."
>>
>>      4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for
>> Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL."
>>
>>      5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present
>> time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.
>>
>>      6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of
>> works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.
>>
>>      7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but
>> those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened;
>>
>>      8just as it is written,
>>              "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR,
>>              EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT,
>>              DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY."
>>
>>      9And David says,
>>              "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP,
>>              AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM.
>>         10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT,
>>              AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER."
>>
>>      11(P)I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they?
>> (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come
>> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous.
>>
>>      12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their
>> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their
>> (T)fulfillment be!
>>
>>      13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as
>> (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
>>
>>      14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen
>> and (X)save some of them.
>>
>>      15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world,
>> what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead?
>>
>>      16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and
>> if the root is holy, the branches are too.
>>
>>      17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you,
>> being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker
>> with them of the rich root of the olive tree,
>>
>>      18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are
>> arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but
>> the root supports you.
>>
>>      19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I
>> might be grafted in."
>>
>>      20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you
>> (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear;
>>
>>      21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not
>> spare you, either.
>>
>>      22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who
>> fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue
>> in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off.
>>
>>      23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief,
>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
>>
>>      24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive
>> tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive
>> tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be
>> grafted into their own olive tree?
>>
>>      25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this
>> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own
>> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until
>> the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in;
>>
>>      26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written,
>>              "(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
>>              HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB."
>>         27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
>>              (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS."
>>
>>      28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for
>> your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved
>> for (AU)the sake of the fathers;
>>
>>      29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable.
>>
>>      30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have
>> been shown mercy because of their disobedience,
>>
>>      31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the
>> mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy.
>>
>>      32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may
>> show mercy to all.
>>
>>      33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom and
>> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and
>> unfathomable His ways!
>>
>>      34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS
>> COUNSELOR?
>>
>>      35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO HIM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK
>> TO HIM AGAIN?
>>
>>      36For (BD)from Him and through Him and to Him are all things
>> (BE)To Him be the glory forever. Amen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>     Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 PM
>>     To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>     Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>>
>>
>>
>>     First ,   I am not a dispensationalist  --  never have been and
>> very likely never will be.   It is an American theological invention.
>>  a man named Darby being its first major proponent,  and Scolfield
>> along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its
>> critical acclaim.
>>
>>
>>
>>     Secondly,  an unregenerated Jew is no different than an
>> unregenerated Floridian.
>>
>>     I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that
>> such was never the intention of God  --  never.   Jews get no credit
>> from me for the Messiah  --  they rejected Him then, killed him,
>> came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in
>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and  left
>> the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their
>> holy city.   There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the
>> sites of any other world religion.
>>
>>
>>
>>     That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the
>> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical
>> conclusion.
>>
>>
>>
>>     And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that
>> I do not hate the Jew.   Israel was created by agreements of the
>> young United Nations.  Their new land was nothing like what it is
>> today.   And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is
>> reasonable or even human, at times.   The surrounding Muslim/Arab
>> world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of
>> compromise is disgustingly stupid to me   Where, at one time,  I had
>> some regard for the Muslim religion  ,  today, I have none.   I think
>> it is violent at its core,  a faith built upon a hatred for all who
>> are not Muslim.
>>
>>
>>
>>     But I have little regard for Judaism, as well.   A very
>> materialistic people,   fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in
>> terms of matters of faith and practice.     Biblically speaking,
>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ.   It is not a sister
>> religion.  Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of
>> the Jewish people,   I really view it as the history of the Church.
>>  God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ.
>>
>>
>>
>>     jd
>>
>>
>>
>>       -------------- Original message -------------- 
>>       From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>       Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you
>> know.  Soon there will be.  What bewilders me is why you rarely miss
>> a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who
>> are true apostates.  They claim to serve Jesus and yet are
>> anti-Christs preaching a different Jesus and a different gospel.  The
>> Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus.  I have a
>> special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew,
>> because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one
>> day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom.  Why doesn't
>> that have any meaning for you? izzy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>       Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM
>>       To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>>       Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel
>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad
>>
>>
>>
>>       Here is what I said, Linda.:  "Do you know of any orthodox Jews
>> who do not deny the Christ?  And why does that not have any meaning
>> to you?    I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much.  "
>>  There in not one hateful word in that comment  --  not one.
>>
>>
>>
>>       You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just
>> maybe,  you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as
>> bad as possible and actually answer the above question.
>>
>>
>>
>>       I am for US aid to Israel.   I am not for spending one penny
>> from church coffers.  but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this
>> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who
>> deny the Lord you claim to serve.
>>
>>       I expect such conduct from you.
>>
>>
>>
>>       jd
>>
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