First you accuse me of being Gary North and then you tell me you agree with my critique of his philosophy? (see your post below) Which is it Lance? I do not understand such behavior it seems irrational to me.
I absolutely am not a ROMAN Papist. Seems to me the Canadian Gov't is on a witch hunt the likes of MccarthyISM. The State of Canada has become the Potentate on a hunt for illegal thoughts and will enFORCE by threat of law and public censure. Only diff McCarthy was right the US had been infiltrated! The only force I believe in is the Force of God's words. You have the right to believe anything you want and I have the right to violently disagree with words NO SWORDS! --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you know that 'he' will not repeat that infamous line no matter > who asks? > > So, Kevin, I undertake to write more than 1 line and, you do what you > do so well; simply give up a smart-ass reply. It's little wonder that > SPers are not well received either in Salt Lake or, anywhere else! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Deegan > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 24, 2006 08:15 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march > > > Are you talking to me, Gary North? > > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted that a > civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a > moral society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some > attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by > the ten commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on > that which opposes the foregoing. > > Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine > 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do > believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon > which you focus (signage wise and all). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Deegan > To: [email protected] > Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54 > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march > > > > The Canadian Guanatamo > Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance! > Are you hating an identifiable group? > And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I understand it as > an attack on me & multiple groups of my friends. ; ) > Do you have the telE for the Tribunal? > > Justice in Canaduh > > http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/ > passed his second year of incarceration without charge > Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to > know all the evidence against him. > Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related > > Canadian Human Rights Commission "The truth in some absolute > sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social context in which > the message is delivered and heard which will determine the effect > that the communication will have on the listener. It is not the truth > or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is > understood by the recipient." > > Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't look now but Canada is changing - Group Think > Gary North would be proud of you folks. > He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you > folks have actually suceeded! > > Robert Martin, professor of constitutional law at the > University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian > theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would > describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. > Anything that is regarded as heresy or blasphemy is not tolerated." > > Be careful there have been Inquisitions against professors > who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in, > for your thoughts! > > You Can't Say That" > Canadian thought police on the march. > By David E. Bernstein > > I've had the good fortune of spending this past month on the > road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination laws are > eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book, > an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of expression > is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to aid women > and minorities. The heart of my response is, "Look at what's > happening in Canada. If we don't watch out, we're next." > > The decline of freedom of expression in Canada began with > seemingly minor and > understandable speech restrictions. In 1990, the Canadian > supreme court upheld the conviction of James Keegstra, a > public-high-school teacher, for propagating Holocaust denial and > anti-Semitic views to his public high-school students, despite > repeated warnings from his superiors to stop. Keegstra was convicted > of the crime of "willfully promoting hatred against an identifiable > group," which carries a penalty of up to two years in jail. > Criminalizing hate speech, the court stated, was a "reasonable" > restriction on expression, and it therefore passed constitutional > muster. > Two years later, the same court held that obscenity laws are > unconstitutional to the extent they criminalize material based on > sexual content alone. However, any "degrading or dehumanizing" > depiction of sexual activity - including material that the First > Amendment would protect in the United States - was deprived of > constitutional protection to protect women from discrimination. > Even the most zealous advocates of freedom of expression > often feel uncomfortable defending the right to engage in Holocaust > denial or to propagate degrading pornography. But, not surprisingly, > the inevitable result of allowing these initial speech restrictions > has been the gradual but significant growth of censorship and > suppression of civil liberties across Canada. > In many cases, the speech that is suppressed conflicts with > the Canadian government's official multiculturalist agenda, or is > otherwise politically incorrect. For example, the Canadian supreme > court recently turned down an appeal by a Christian minister > convicted of inciting hatred against Muslims. An Ontario appellate > court had found that the minister did not intentionally incite > hatred, but was properly convicted for being willfully blind to the > effects of his actions. This decision led Robert Martin, a professor > of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario, to > comment that he increasingly thinks "Canada now is a totalitarian > theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would > describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness]. > Anything that is regarded as heresy or blasphemy is not tolerated." > Indeed, it has apparently become illegal in Canada to > advocate traditional Christian opposition to homosexual sex. For > example, the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission ordered the > Saskatoon Star Phoenix and Hugh Owens to each pay $1,500 to each of > three gay activists as damages for publication of an advertisement, > placed by Owens, which conveyed the message that the Bible condemns > homosexual acts. > In another incident, after Toronto print-shop owner Scott > Brockie refused on religious grounds to print letterhead for a > gay-activist group, the local human-rights commission ordered him to > pay the group $5,000, print the requested material, and apologize to > the group's leaders. Brockie, who always accepted print jobs from > individual gay customers, and even did pro-bono work for a local AIDS > group, is fighting the decision on religious-freedom grounds. > Any gains the gay-rights movement has received from the > crackdown on speech in Canada have been pyrrhic because as part of > the Canadian government's suppression of obscene material, Canadian > customs frequently target books with homosexual content. Police raids > searching for obscene materials have disproportionately targeted gay > organizations and bookstores. > > Moreover, left-wing academics are beginning to learn > firsthand what it's like to have their own censorship vehicles used > against them. For example, University of British Columbia Prof. > Sunera Thobani, a native of Tanzania, faced a hate-crimes > investigation after she launched into a vicious diatribe against > American foreign policy. Thobani, a Marxist feminist and > multiculturalism activist, had remarked that Americans are > "bloodthirsty, vengeful and calling for blood." The Canadian > hate-crimes law was created to protect minority groups from hate > speech. But in this case, it was invoked to protect Americans. > > A great deal more censorship in Canada seems inevitable. For > example, British Columbia's extremely broad hate-speech law prohibits > the publication of any statement that "indicates" discrimination or > that is "likely" to expose a person or group or class of persons to > hatred or contempt. The Canadian thought police are on the march. > Hopefully, it is not too late to stop them. > - David E. Bernstein is a professor of law at George Mason > University and the author of You Can't Say That! The Growing Threat > to Civil Liberties from Anti-Discrimination Laws > > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930865538/103-2028551-5008648?v=glance&n=283155 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your > PC and save big. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC > for low, low rates. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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