IFO can accept this self-characterization. But when your words sound like North's or Paul Hill's, they allow others to see a similarity in your thoughts as compared to the violent thinking of those named above.
jd
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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> First you accuse me of being Gary North and then you tell me you agree
> with my critique of his philosophy? (see your post below)
> Which is it Lance? I do not understand such behavior it seems
> irrational to me.
>
> I absolutely am not a ROMAN Papist.
>
> Seems to me the Canadian Gov't is on a witch hunt the likes of
> MccarthyISM.
> The State of Canada has become the Potentate on a hunt for illegal
> thoughts and will enFORCE by threat of law and public censure.
> Only diff McCarthy was right the US had been infiltrated!
>
> The only force I believe in is the Force of God's words.
> You have the right to believe anything you want and I have the right to
> violently disagree with words NO SWORDS!
>
> --- Lance M uir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Did you know that 'he' will not repeat that infamous line no matter
> > who asks?
> >
> > So, Kevin, I undertake to write more than 1 line and, you do what you
> > do so well; simply give up a smart-ass reply. It's little wonder that
> > SPers are not well received either in Salt Lake or, anywhere else!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Deegan
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: March 24, 2006 08:15
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march
> >
> >
> > Are you talking to me, Gary North?
> >
> > Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > My critique of this would be similar to your own. Granted that a
> > civil society is an improvement on an uncivil one. Granted that a
> > moral society is an improvement on an immoral one. Granted that some
> > attempt to govern their lives by the so-called 'golden rule' or, by
> > the ten commandments. These also offer up a social improvement on
> > that which opposes the foregoing.
> >
> > Please, please tell me Kevin, Judy, David and Iz that the genuine
> > 'renovation of the heart' would/should include all of the above? I do
> > believe that some of y'all have things ass backwards with that upon
> > which you focus (signage wise and all).
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Deegan
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: March 24, 2006 07:54
> > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Canadian Thought Police on the march
> >
> >
> >
> > The Canadian Guanatamo
> > Better be careful with your social context on the INET Lance!
> > Are you hating an identifiable group?
> > And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, I understand it as
> ; > an attack on me & multiple groups of my friends. ; )
> > Do you have the telE for the Tribunal?
> >
> > Justice in Canaduh
> >
> > http://www.pressaction.com/news/weblog/full_article/petersen02272005/
> > passed his second year of incarceration without charge
> > Zündel was denied the right to cross-examine his accusers or to
> > know all the evidence against him.
> > Zündel stated that all his alleged crimes are Internet-related
> >
> > Canadian Human Rights Commission "The truth in some absolute
> > sense really plays no role. Rather, it is the social context in which
> > the message is delivered and heard which will determine the effect
> > that the communication will have on the listener. It is not the truth
> > or falsity per se that will evoke the emotion but rather how it is
> > understood by the recipient."
> >
> > Kevin Deeganwrote:
> > Don't look now but Canada is changing - Group Think
> > Gary North would be proud of you folks.
> > He tried to bring in New Geneva and by the looks of it you
> > folks have actually suceeded!
> >
> > Robert Martin, professor of constitutional law at the
> > University of Western Ontario "Canada now is a totalitarian
> > theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would
> > describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness].
> > Anything that is regarded as heresy or blasphemy is not tolerated."
> >
> > Be careful there have been Inquisitions against professors
> > who attack American Foriegn policy. Hope you do not get turned in,
> > for your thoughts!
> >
> > You Can't Say That"
> > Canadian thought police on the march.
> > By David E. Bernstein
> >
> > I've had the good fortune of spending this past month on the
> > road promoting my new book about how anti-discrimination laws are
> > eroding civil liberties. At the end of a recent talk about the book,
> > an audience member asked whether I believe that freedom of _expression_
> > is really at risk in the United States from laws meant to aid women
> > and minorities. The heart of my response is, "Look at what's
> > happening in Canada. If we don't watch out, we're next."
> >
> > The decline of freedom of _expression_ in Canada began with
> > seemingly minor and
> > understandable speech restrictions. In 1990, the Canadian
> > supreme court upheld the conviction of James Keegstra, a
> > public-high-school teacher, for propagating Holocaust denial and
> > anti-Semitic views to his public high-school students, despite
> > repeated warnings from his superiors to stop. Keegstra was convicted
> > of the crime of "will fully promoting hatred against an identifiable
> > group," which carries a penalty of up to two years in jail.
> > Criminalizing hate speech, the court stated, was a "reasonable"
> > restriction on _expression_, and it therefore passed constitutional
> > muster.
> > Two years later, the same court held that obscenity laws are
> > unconstitutional to the extent they criminalize material based on
> > sexual content alone. However, any "degrading or dehumanizing"
> > depiction of sexual activity - including material that the First
> > Amendment would protect in the United States - was deprived of
> > constitutional protection to protect women from discrimination.
> > Even the most zealous advocates of freedom of _expression_
> > often feel uncomfortable defending the right to engage in Holocaust
> > denial or to propagate degrading pornography. But, not surprisingly,
> > the inevitable result of allow ing these initial speech restrictions
> > has been the gradual but significant growth of censorship and
> > suppression of civil liberties across Canada.
> > In many cases, the speech that is suppressed conflicts with
> > the Canadian government's official multiculturalist agenda, or is
> > otherwise politically incorrect. For example, the Canadian supreme
> > court recently turned down an appeal by a Christian minister
> > convicted of inciting hatred against Muslims. An Ontario appellate
> > court had found that the minister did not intentionally incite
> > hatred, but was properly convicted for being willfully blind to the
> > effects of his actions. This decision led Robert Martin, a professor
> > of constitutional law at the University of Western Ontario, to
> > comment that he increasingly thinks "Canada now is a totalitarian
> > theocracy. I see this as a country ruled today by what I would
&g t; > describe as a secular state religion [of political correctness].
> > Anything that is regarded as heresy or blasphemy is not tolerated."
> > Indeed, it has apparently become illegal in Canada to
> > advocate traditional Christian opposition to homosexual sex. For
> > example, the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission ordered the
> > Saskatoon Star Phoenix and Hugh Owens to each pay $1,500 to each of
> > three gay activists as damages for publication of an advertisement,
> > placed by Owens, which conveyed the message that the Bible condemns
> > homosexual acts.
> > In another incident, after Toronto print-shop owner Scott
> > Brockie refused on religious grounds to print letterhead for a
> > gay-activist group, the local human-rights commission ordered him to
> > pay the group $5,000, print the requested material, and apologize to
> > the group's leaders. Brockie, who always accepted print jobs fr om
> > individual gay customers, and even did pro-bono work for a local AIDS
> > group, is fighting the decision on religious-freedom grounds.
> > Any gains the gay-rights movement has received from the
> > crackdown on speech in Canada have been pyrrhic because as part of
> > the Canadian government's suppression of obscene material, Canadian
> > customs frequently target books with homosexual content. Police raids
> > searching for obscene materials have disproportionately targeted gay
> > organizations and bookstores.
> >
> > Moreover, left-wing academics are beginning to learn
> > firsthand what it's like to have their own censorship vehicles used
> > against them. For example, University of British Columbia Prof.
> > Sunera Thobani, a native of Tanzania, faced a hate-crimes
> > investigation after she launched into a vicious diatribe against
> > American foreign policy. Thobani, a Marxist feminist and
> > multiculturalism activist, had remarked that Americans are
> > "bloodthirsty, vengeful and calling for blood." The Canadian
> > hate-crimes law was created to protect minority groups from hate
> > speech. But in this case, it was invoked to protect Americans.
> >
> > A great deal more censorship in Canada seems inevitable. For
> > example, British Columbia's extremely broad hate-speech law prohibits
> > the publication of any statement that "indicates" discrimination or
> > that is "likely" to expose a person or group or class of persons to
> > hatred or contempt. The Canadian thought police are on the march.
> > Hopefully, it is not too late to stop them.
> > - David E. Bernstein is a professor of law at George Mason
> > University and the author of You Can't Say That! The Growing Threat
> > to Civil Liberties from Anti-Discrimination Laws
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1930865538/103-2028551-5008648?v=glance&n=28315
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> >
> >
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