A Dissabte 08 Juny 2013 11:17:08, Cédric Krier va escriure: > On 08/06/13 10:22 +0200, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote: > > A Dissabte 08 Juny 2013 03:41:16, Cédric Krier va escriure: > > > On 08/06/13 00:39 +0200, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote: > > > > - The closing move: which takes makes that when closing the fiscal > > > > year all balance accounts will be zero. If an account has balance of > > > > +10, the account will be added in a move line with a -10, and so on. > > > > > > This is weird. > > > > This is Spain ;-) > > > > > > The result is that when the year is closed all accounts (P&L and > > > > balance) have a balance of zero. > > > > > > > > Then, the year is opened with the opening move, which looks like the > > > > closing one but with credit and debit exchanged. > > > > > > This process should not be done in Tryton. > > > Tryton is designed to defer automaticaly deferral accounts. > > > This is important for the follow for example of the payment of > > > invoices. > > > > It can be done because what we do in the closing/opening process is > > automatically reconcile the closing and opening move lines. > > So it is clearly a useless operation.
AFAIU, listing a General Ledger when you don't have an opening moves it means that if you SUM the results of a given account, the result is not the real balance of the account because the application is adding some "magic" that when you query for the balance of the account it is able to query previous fiscal years. Is this correct? > > > > What we do in Tryton is create three special periods: opening (first > > > > day of fiscal year), p&l (last day of fiscal year) and closing (last > > > > day of fiscal year), so the user is able to see their reports with > > > > or without the p&l period and with or without closing period. As > > > > closing and p&l start and end on the same date (usually Dec 31th), > > > > there's no way the correct order is used in reports. > > > > > > I don't see the point to see a report where all balance accounts are > > > zero. > > > > Yes, but you may want to see the report where all P&L are zero and > > currently there's no way to distinguish P&L and closing. That's why we > > cannot relay on date. > > But as there is no closing, there is nothing to distinguish. I'm checking with an accountant if those moves are required for legal needs. It is probably subject to interpretation. But even if we can avoid the moves, I'm pretty sure many accountants will end up asking for this. I think using a sequence is not a problem for companies without this special need and ensures that users can create those periods safely. After all, Tryton already allows to create those periods but it simply has no way of sorting them correctly. -- Albert Cervera i Areny Consultor funcional Tel. 93 553 18 03 @albertnan www.NaN-tic.com Avís legal >>
