A Dilluns 03 Juny 2013 16:58:34, Sergi Almacellas Abellana va escriure:
> Al 03/06/13 16:33, En/na Albert Cervera i Areny ha escrit:
> > A Diumenge 02 Juny 2013 03:54:45, Sharoon Thomas va escriure:
> >> On Sun 02 Jun 20 01:41, Albert Cervera i Areny wrote:
> >>> By the way, it is even possible, with at least one of our
> >>> customers that
> >>> 
> >>> their customer confirms two of the quotations sent because they
> >>> decide
> >>> 
> >>> to purchase the big one and the small one (although the
> >>> customer only
> >>> 
> >>> asked for one at the beginning).
> >> 
> >> We get similar requests from customers too and the way we thought
> >> of
> >> 
> >> solving the problem was with an extention to sale_opportunity
> >> probably
> >> 
> >> called sale_opportunity_quote.
> 
> I agree that this is need to be done as extension as this workflow is
> enough for some use cases.
> 
> >> This should create a one2many relationship from sale.opportunity
> >> to
> >> 
> >> sale.sale, and each different proposal (quote) you give the
> >> customer
> >> 
> >> can be there. This applies only where you would be proposing a
> >> big
> >> 
> >> truck and a small truck (while you use your original simpler
> >> workflow
> >> 
> >> where you will only revise the same sale at quote state).
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> With the module installed, when a customer finally confirms one
> >> or more
> >> 
> >> quotations, use a wizard to choose the ones to confirm (and other
> >> sales
> >> 
> >> are moved to cancelled) and the opportunity is marked as won. If
> >> all
> >> 
> >> sales are cancelled, then the opportunity is lost.
> > 
> > This workflow better matches what I'd expect. My concern is that
> > with this workflow you're changing the semantics and lifespan of
> > the opportunity. Note that currently opportunities don't have the
> > "won" state. There's only the "converted" one.
> 
> I suspect that "won" == "converted", so that makes sense for me.

No. It currently is not the case because "converted" means "we created the 
quotation" which has nothing to do with "won".

> 
> 
> Also you're making last longer
> 
> > (that's what I expect from the opportunity) because you keep it
> > until lost or won.
> 
> Thats the expected behaviour of a lead.

That's not the current behaviour.

> > I think it is better that it lasts longer because then, the
> > opportunity would be the place to add more information such as
> > conversations with the customer regarding the opportunity.
> 
> IMHO conversations must be added in diferents levels:
> 
> - In the lead: All the conversations related to this lead.
> - In the sale: All the conversations related to this sale.
> - In the party form: All the conversation related to this party.
> That's basically all de conversations of the lead, and all the
> conversations for all the sales this party has, and all conversations
> related to any other modules.

For me, the opportunity is the right place for that information.

> Is the tryton framework able to group information from diferent
> modules in the same treeview?


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