On Wednesday, December 23, 2015 at 11:40:04 PM UTC+10, Carlos Eduardo 
Sotelo Pinto wrote:
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> 2015-12-23 3:40 GMT-05:00 Cédric Krier <[email protected] <javascript:>>:
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>> On 2015-12-22 20:28, Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto wrote:
>> > Dear Comunity
>> >
>> > I am implementing the account statement, however, after chgecking some
>> > behavior and not filling my requirements ( I guess do ) i decide to ask 
>> to
>> > all of you some sugests:
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>> > User story
>> > ==========
>> > Each time that an invoice is generated on a POS, once the client do a
>> > payment, then invoice must be set as "paid". Then, at the complete a
>> > selling turn, for example, I just work on POS1 from 07:00 to 14:00, I 
>> must
>> > do a "closing POS movements", that I have understood is something like a
>> > journal extract.
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>> First, I don't know of which POS you are talking because Tryton doesn't
>> have a POS in standard.
>> Second, I don't agree that each invoice generated by a POS should be
>> paid at the end of the sale. When you do an invoice, you know the
>> customer and so you can allow him to pay later (that's one of the
>> purpose of the invoice).
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> I have trying to talk about the business role, not the tryton module. As a 
> business role "POS", most common business have a process like this POS 
> role, like if were a supermarket.
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> - At the beginning process, you must open your journal cash before start 
> selling,
> - At the ending process, you must close your journal
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> This must be done as most of the processes on a common product or services 
> selling business, then a common process is:
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> *A usually selling process*
> 1. Final customer (CUS) choose your product or service
> 2. CUS go to the POS and a new sell is started
> 3. Payment is done any way selling is cancelled
> 4. If payment is done, invoice is generated
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> *Actually, I have found on triton a process like a ecommerce where*
> 1. CUS Choose product or services
> 2. Invoice is generated and marked a pending
> 3. Once an invoice is paid, then is marked as "paid"
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> I am convinced that is an implementation issue, since tryton is generic, 
> however no yet found the way on do this implementation. 
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> *Modules topic:*
> I have find the selling module, but is usable on more complex stock 
> management process, and also I have found in tryton 3.8 that there is a 
> extra field, that is usable for make cash journal report, in tryton 3.4 I 
> have found statement module, wich one generated extracts, but the extract, 
> once is confirmed, it mark invoiced as paid, then I considerer no usable 
> since, an invoice couldnt be paied on other process, op yes?
> After this explanation, I would like to know if someone have work on 
> before on cash journal and reporrst and how to maneg it for genrate closing 
> cash journals reports, if it is part of the modules for tryton 3.4 or is 
> part of the other modules, or I must create a POS module
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> Thanks a lot​
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>> > What I have seen on Statement
>> > =============================
>> > When a journal extract is careted, just invoiced on state "post" are 
>> taken
>> > for the extract, and then, after validate the extract, invoice are 
>> marked
>> > as "paid"
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>> I don't know what you are talking about. I guess it is a process from
>> your specific POS module so you should see with the author of this
>> module (not on this mailing list).
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Hi Carlos,

To be honest I am having a little trouble understanding everything you have 
written, so hopefully my response does help.

It seems that you are talking about 2 different things. Your topic subject 
mentions account statement and you start by saying that you are trying to 
implement the account statement. However, you also bring a POS 
implementation into the conversation.

To me an account statement is a report or a list of account moves related 
to an account. Usually a client will call and ask an account statement for 
the past year because they want to know that their accounting records 
matches yours - invoices and payments. I'm not sure that this exists 
currently in Tryton, but I will need it myself, so I'll let you know how I 
go next week. The account_statement you have found is actually used to 
record lines from the statement from your bank. In English, we usually 
refer to this as reconciling your bank statements. Oh and I also notice 
that you should probably look at the module "account_payment_clearing" as 
you will probably want to reconcile all the POS payments into your bank 
account.

The other thing you are talking about is implementing a user process for a 
POS where an invoice/receipt is generated and paid at the same time as a 
sale. If so have a look at tryton_pos from openlabs/fulfilio. I think that 
other Tryton developers have also created their own POS.

Cheers

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