> ok, why AppleDB,
> just a short overview:
>
> as you know Apple File Sharing can reference by file NUMBER or filename.
> XPress, as oldskool problem links all files into xpress documents by  
> id number.
> so if you don't have AppleDB, you might have xpress confused after  
> cleaning up.

Ok, but haven't had any problems on old appletalk linux boxes without AppleDB,
but you're probably right.

> I do have a configure solution that could make it into a contributed  
> netatalk2.0 rpm.

That would save me a lot of trouble :)

> netatalk lets you choose between three different solutions to the  
> file id problem.
> having a cnid database accessed by every afpd, having a centralized  
> cnid daemon, or calculating file ids on the fly from device inodes,  
> which is baad, if you are planning on changing partition layouts on  
> your server.
> The last might be broken by now, b/c it doesn't seem to be maintained 
>  anymore.
> I recommend having an extra daemon accessing the database,
> and if you are interested I try to make my first steps into a rpm.

Very, very interested.

> m
> ps: i do know a lot of people running linux servers for os9 clients  
> for exactly that purpose: quark's xpress which is technologically  
> dumb (don't sue me, it is broken by design when it comes to networked 
>  collaboration), and the new version is even more expensive, and also 
>  d.um.b.

Xpress is a pain in the *ss, but is pretty nuch the standard 
application around
here. :(

> pps: and samba isn't an option when it comes to l.users on macintoshs 
>  (writing this on a powerbook), .DS_Store and other things makes  
> folder management a mess,
> having .AppleDouble isn't either, but at least you could put .AppleDB 
>  on seperate harddisks, AND having clients able to clean up their own 
>  mess is great on the server. and yes, there are clients having  
> slashes in their filenames.

Agree. Samba is NO option for Mac users.

>>>
>>>> On serveral servers I have netatalk running for the Macintosh  clients.
>>>> There is a problem that occurs from time to time, when the users
>>>> suddenly have an empty network share, no files or dirs in it. On  busy
>>>> servers it occurs every week, on other servers approx. every month.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Stop using appletalk :-). You should have only Macs with OS X by  now and
>>> they work perfectly with samba.
>>>
>>
>> I don't agree,
>>
>> All my customers have several Mac's with classic OS (mostly 9),  
>> because of the
>> Quark Xpress software there running, so it's always a mixed  
>> enviroment. Only
>> Appletalk can do this.
>>
>> In the case everyone runs OSX, you still have the problem of the  old shares
>> resource information. With samba, you lose the resource files of those
>> "old" appletalk shares.
>>
>> Even Macintosh own OSX servers are still running appletalk for this  
>> reason, so
>> it's a must for now.


--
Ari�n Huisken
Xilay Software


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