First the followup re: RAID using your installer: I deleted all
existing partitions, started over, and got it going. I am guessing the
first time that grub found existing partitions from a previous tsl 3
install which I did not destroy on /dev/hda and pointed at them
instead of the new RAID partitions. So the install onto RAID was
probably successful but ignored.

I left the partitions because I like to have several rescue
partitions. I install 2 separate copies of TSL root copies into (for
example) /dev/hda3 and /dev/hdc3 and then run normally from a RAID1
mirror built on /dev/hda2 and /dev/hdc2 so if something gets messed up
I can reboot into one of the spare partitions, mount the broken one,
repair it, and reboot. I routinely do all this via serial console from
500 miles away. Works great 98+% of the time.

I also do complete installations and upgrades remotely, so I tend to
not use your installer much. I test out the new version releases at
home and then copy the whole root partition across the 'net into a
spare partition so I can test without destroying existing content.
All done from serial console, no CDROM, no ISO, no installer. No need
to wonder if 2.2 -> 3.0 or even a kernel upgrade will take down a
machine and leave me with 2500 cranky customers.

>> I also tried building a RAID1 setup manually and copying things
>> over with cpio. This worked for 2.2, I have 5 servers running
>> this way now.
>
> Sounds like a hack. TSL 3.0 actually has excellent support for SW RAID
> setup during installation. In my opinion way better than that of the old
> installer in 2.2.

Disclaimer: I really, really like Trustix and I use it on most of my
production servers.

Note Christian said "way better" not "easy" or "practical". :-) His
"excellent support" means if you have extensive knowledge it's now
possible. I am not convinced it was possible in 2.2 but that is moot
now.

Yes, I use a glorious and clever hack; I wish it were my own. Hacks
and easy workarounds are a prime reason to use Linux. If I could not
hack Linux, I would just use Windows.* I will write this hack up for
the Wiki because IMO it is still easier to convert a running TSL
system to RAID once you have the steps down than to use the 3.0
installer.

No one could use your manual to do a RAID set up without extensive
knowledge of Linux. For anyone who has not checked, the entire manual
consists mostly of screenshots with very minimal text; you could have
just put the text into the installer. I have the required knowledge
and still found it annoying and convoluted. Maybe knowing it's easy
from a command line has spoiled me??

I telecommute. This means I sometimes have to have someone with
limited ability install TSL for me, and once it's going minimally I
have to fix it up from 500 miles away. I have to talk the guy through
menu by menu, everytime. He never remembers ANYTHING. Try doing your
RAID install THAT way; it's impossible! Usually if possible I have him
boot the system using a rescue CDROM that I created that has ssh in
it. Then I manually build up the drives as mentioned above.

(I suppose an option to enable serial console at install should be
a feature request.)

I have been thinking of trying to build a TSL disk up that has serial
console support as the default. That would be another feature request...

> kind regards
>
> c

likewise, hope I don't sound too testy.

b

* this is perhaps an exaggeration for effect. ;-)



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