Hi Cristian
good news...i've solved the problem.
I "RTFM" and check the dat, all jumpers were right, the scsi terminator was
right...scsi id usually is 6...
umhh...start again, check adaptec scsi bios (ctrl+a to start scsi
utility)...watching around parameters i found a channel ID 7 !!!!!! FOUND !
change to 6 save & reboot... DAT recognized...(more that one exactly...one for
each channel)...also CentOS found my dat, i did some test with mt and it works
nice.
Umh...the only trouble is that i've not an home partition on the LVM...may be
usefull to install again or not ?
Also, probably i've to use: pci=noacpi because it cause me "kernel disabling
irq # xxx" (xxx is one of the irq assigned to uhci_hcd, usb, but i think
related to acpi also).
I'm testing centos...not so bad...but i think there are too much services at
start up (bluetooth on a server ?)
I don't like much red hat GPO, i prefer TSL policy, every new user add is
member of users group !!!
Ok...i think i can use this server...more or less now i've solved every
problem...
Cristian, thank you very much for your suggest and patience,
Buena suerte
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristián Mejía
To: 2bujo
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
Hi Bujo:
I was not an SCSI expert, but you can see if the DAT is detected leaving
only the tape device connected to the flat wire (with the terminator, of
course). If is not recognized, then you can try without the terminator (some HP
tape backup drives has internal terminator embedded).
If still not recognized, try it in another SCSI machine.
Take into account that the ID is set by jumpers, so, maybe some jumpers
can be in a bad place. Read the drive documentation to be sure the ID is
properly set.
The driver used, probably is a generic solution for your RAID card, or
maybe the LSI card has some Adaptec chips (probably the main controller).
Best regards,
Cristián
2bujo escribió:
Hi,
i know, we're talking out of the list...but i think that it's right, we
aren't talking about TSL now.
Compriendo no parlamo nella lista,io credo es correcto, non estamos a
parlar de trustix, (now i'm guess how to talk spanish, desculpame)
Where can i see if there is an ID conflict ?
scsi terminator is present on the cable, i talked with acer
assistence...they told me that it may be a dat failure, bios didn't reconized
adaptec controller on boot parameter, and the controller didn't found any
device during scan.
Disks are recognized my sas megaraid lsi logic controller not adaptec scsi
controller.
Thank you for your support Cristian
Muchas gracias
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristián Mejía
To: 2bujo
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
Hi 2bujo:
Our thread is out of the list, so only I receive your message. I see
your difficult with English and I ask if you speak spanish only to help you
better. Italian are similar to Spanish ... but only this, Ha!! Non capisco
niente!!
If you use the manual disk config, you will see options to use the
kind of RAID you want. I still not using LVM in order to facilitate the change
of drives to other machine in case of failure.
Tape drive problem can be because of drives ID conflict. Or maybe the
lack of a SCSI terminator. If disks are recognized, tape drive is not different.
Best regards,
Cristián.
2bujo escribió:
Hi
Centos works good, that's a great news, but...there's a but...
It found megaraid_sas and logical volume, but not in the raid 5 config
i think, i've 3 x 73 GB...now i see:
138 G /
/dev/sda1 104 M /boot
tmpfs 526M /dev/shm
my old trustix on a server with raid 5 did:
/dev/sda2 68 G /
/dev/sda1 48M /boot
/dev/sda5 76G /home
umhh...i don't like so much
found adaptec scsi controller but did'nt find DAT 72 tape...i don't
know what to do with this.
I've graphical interface...sound so strange :) ...i've just installed
mc and started sshd.
Just installed and updated...kernel also...may be dangerous in a server
production i think...
I've to learn its kind of config now.
But, as i said before...it works, and i think that's a good think,
thank you for your suggest...
Now...always the same trouble: may be more secure to change server or
stay with this and learn centos (hope to discover dat tape) ?
TSL community...isn't possible to add a megaraid_sas module in a simple
2.2 minor update release ? there are also official linux driver from LSI Logic,
there are a lot of server with sas disk and controller...
Thank you all
Bujo
P.s
...sorry for my bad english, i think italian and spanish are similar,
but may be too ridiculous for me to try to write in spanish i think.
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristián Mejía
To: 2bujo
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
I understand you ... I feel the same when the main team leave
Trustix. But things no longer are the same.
I change from Red Hat 7.3 to Trustix, so was sad for me to leave
Trustix too, but I have learned a lot with it !!
Best regards,
Cristián.
PS: You speak spanish ??
2bujo escribió:
Hi Cristian,
i'm near to burn centos 5.0 dvd, i'll try in the afternoon, i hope
it may solve my problem.
I'm quite sad to leave Trustix, i'm using it from 2004 and it works
great, i've 4 server based on it...
I'll update you later about results
tks
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristián Mejía
To: 2bujo
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
Hi Bujo:
I would like to have one of this !! I'm only have Pentium
IV and a couple Xeon with more than 2 years, I hope this year can upgrade some
servers !! I'm in south America, is not so easy to upgrade machines ...
specially if they still are working fine.
Try the Centos 5, is very easy to change from Trustix to
Centos, because is RH kind of configuration. Debian, Ubuntu and even Slackware
use different configuration 'ways', so take some time to get used to it.
If you started Linux with a RH config (or similar) you can
get the most of you as admin, using similar configuration systems.
I was only able to use software RADI's, a couple with SATA
disks, the other over IDE disks. There is some time not using SCSI at all. I
use backuppc as backup system, with an disk backup in other city to protect the
data. (no more tape backups).
Best regards,
Cristián.
2bujo escribió:
Hi Cristian
thank you for your suggest, but i was reading the forum and i
found this two thread:
scsi-tape not working (st0/nst0)
Installing CentOS 4.4 on Intel S5000PAL motherboard (SAS RAID
problem)
At this time i'm trying debian 4.0rc0, reconized the
megaraid_sas, but i'm not happy at all i'm testing the installation just now, i
think the better solution is to change server and come back to classic scsi
disk with u320 controller.
New server is a AMD Opteron Dual Core 2.0Ghz
what doy you think about it ?
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: Cristián Mejía
To: 2bujo
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
www.centos.org the same as RHES4 or 5, you choose.
I change almost all my Trustix servers to CentOS.
HTH
Cristian.
2bujo escribió:
Hi
i've to change the server, there's no possibility to use TSL with Lsi
Megaraid Sas 8300 XLP, i could buy RHES, but i don't like this scenario.
Alternative server use: LSI megaRAID SCSI 320 (mod 1 channel for dat and mod
2 channel for scsi disk raid 5 support).
TSL 2.2 support this kind of scsi controller ?
Is there a possibility to load third parts modules during start up of the
TSL installation ?
Thank you all
Bye
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: "2bujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Christian Haugan Toldnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
Hi
i found the problem, TSL doesn't support megaraid_sas module.
The scsi controller is: LSI Logic Megaraid Sas 8300XLP Controller
May be possible to load this module during the start up ?
There are driver linux support by the manufacturer but the only distro
that use this module is Red Hat Enterprise and Suse Enterprise.
Even if the controller may be reconized, the hard disk sas aren't.
I'm really, really, sad.
Bujo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christian Haugan Toldnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "2bujo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: TSL & Hardware - FAILURE
2bujo wrote:
Hi,
as i supposed...server altos g540 arivved this morning, inserted tsl 2.2
cd, NO disk reconized.
SAS driver are not present ?
TSL found: ADAPTEC AIC-79xx , I2_block, but no disk, i found an alarm
about wd_7000 scsi.
My scare is that there's no module about: sas disk, dat tape disk.
I try also with tsl 3.0.5...hang up during module loading.
This is the most horrible thing that i was thinking in my previous
mailing to tsl discuss.
Any help is appreciated.
You could test by installing a more commonly used distribution, then
checking what modules are loaded to access your disk(s), and report
back. If it's anything like in the old days, the TSL developers don't
have access to you particular brand of hardware.
c
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