Does anyone know why using VNC over SSH would make things so slow?

If I use SSH port forwarding to access the VNC Java/Web client:
 1. the web/java interface takes forever to load and is extremely sluggish
to use
 2. the ssh terminal window because very sluggish

If I use SSH port forwarding to access the VNC native client, it takes a
very long time to establish the connection but then performs well (at least
on my LAN).

Thanks for any tips you might have on this...

Sean



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