Wesley Eddy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As TSV ADs, Martin and I have been wondering lately about
> AQM work.
> 
> At this point, thanks largely to Jim Gettys, we all know
> about large buffers, and we know what bulk-transfer with
> loss-based congestion control can do to interactive traffic
> when large queues exist.
> 
> We know one thing that can be done to help is the use of
> AQMs, but the IETF is currently not doing a whole lot to
> help in this regard.

   This issue tends to fall in the cracks between areas. :^(

   TSV is the area best adapted to standardize AQM algorithms; but
there is no mechanism to request a particular algorithm be used, or
to report which algorithm was in use.

   It's not entirely clear where those mechanisms might fit; and
of course passing parameters would be desirable...

>... Particularly, I have wondered:
> - Should we have a working group looking at AQMs?

   I have great difficulty imaging a charter.

> - If so, does it make sense to shoot for Standards Track
>   specifications?

   Probably not yet.

> - Would we be able to come up with actual requirements
>   on an AQM so that it's implementable for cheap in
>   hardware and software, and behaves well under load?

   That's the easy part.

> - Would it be valuable to have a test suite for AQMs
>   similar to what ICCRG was doing for high-rate TCP?

   Not clear.

> - Would it be valuable to have a BCP (or multiple) on
>   configuring "legacy AQM" like RED, or the use of AQM
>   metrics like "sojourn time" rather than variations of
>   the queue length?

   At the current state-of-the-art, No (IMHO).

> - If any of this is of value, how much belongs in the
>   ICCRG versus TSV working groups?

   Clearly, anything can be chartered to ICCRG: but this doesn't
typically lead to fast progress.

   I would suggest discussion in <tsv-area> of how to communicate
algorithms and parameters.

--
John Leslie <[email protected]>

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