Scott Brim <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:05 AM, John Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Scott Brim <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As I understand it, the ultimate complaint is that the encapsulation
>>> allows traffic to be routed to a part of the Internet that might never
>>> have seen such traffic before, by using UDP to get past blocking
>>> points (NATs, for example).
>>
>> This actually isn't a separate issue. Indeed, encapsulation can cause
>> that; but plenty of other stuff causes the same thing.
> 
> A separate issue from what? Can cause what same thing?

   I guess it's fair game: If I don't understand something you wrote,
you're entitled to not understand something I wrote... ;^}

   I meant simply that many things cause traffic to appear on a portion
of the Internet that hasn't seen it before.

> Are you saying the essential issue is to avoid causing congestion in
> a part of the network that has never seen it before,

   No. (I wasn't speaking to any "essential issue"; and I was largely
still saying +1 to Matt.)

> or that that is a subset of some larger issue,

   Yes.

> or ... ?

   No.

>>> I suspect the concern is that such areas might not be able to handle
>>> even dropping a traffic load that is normal in other parts of the
>>> Internet.
>>
>> I don't understand that statment.
> 
> Let's try a Socratic approach: Why do you think it's a problem to
> increase traffic in a part of the Internet, by injecting what is
> considered ordinary traffic in other parts?

   I didn't realize I thought that...

   Nor, AFAICT, do I think that's a problem worth considering. Whatever
traffic any part of the internet sees is pretty random.

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John Leslie <[email protected]>

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