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David Harrington
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tsv-area [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:06 AM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; tsv-
> [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: AD sponsoring draft-masotta-tftpexts-windowsize-opt-09
> 
> I am uncomfortable with independent stream
> submissions modifying standards track documents,
> and getting published as standards track.
> 
> Lloyd Wood
> http://about.me/lloydwood
> ________________________________________
> From: tsv-area [[email protected]] On Behalf Of joel jaeggli
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: 15 March 2014 16:20
> To: Joe Touch; [email protected]; [email protected]; Martin
Stiemerling
> Subject: Re: AD sponsoring draft-masotta-tftpexts-windowsize-opt-09
> 
> On 3/14/14, 1:34 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
> > Hi, Joel,
> >
> > On 3/13/2014 3:22 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> I have taken on the AD sponsorship of
> >> draft-masotta-tftpexts-windowsize-opt and am looking for some
> additional
> >> review before revisiting the subject of and IETF last call.
> >
> > FWIW, this ought to be vetted in a broader venue, e.g., TSVWG. I'm not
> > very comfortable with AD sponsored standards-track updates.
> 
> This is very useful feedback.
> 
> The process that got this  thing from an independent stream submission
> in iesg conflict review to where we are today is  somewhat torturous,
> that's why I'm asking.
> 
> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-masotta-tftpexts-windowsize-opt/
> >
> > A quick check indicates a few disconnects, summarized below.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >> Congestion and Error Control
> >>
> >>    From a congestion control standpoint while the number of blocks in
> >>    a window does not represent a threat,
> >
> > The entirety of TCP's congestion control is about managing the window
> > size; the same is true here. Increasing the window absolutely increases
> > the potential for congestion and represents a threat.
> >
> > The doc includes a number of SHOULDs that are underspecified, e.g.,
> > SHOULD implement a timeout on retransmissions (what value?), and
> SHOULD
> > abort (under what conditions?)
> 
> I sympathize with the authors lack of desire to specify specific values
> which may be appropriate now but not into the future. That said. I would
> be happier with examples. (I am aware of some of them)
> 
> 
> > How are retransmissions handled? Go-back-N is known problematic; SACK
> > requires a much more complex mechanism.
> >
> > The document should also request that IANA register "windowsize" as the
> > TFTP option string (and IANA should have a registry of these - they
> > currently don't appear to).
> 
> Yes that seems necessary.
> 
> >
> > ----
> >


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