On 7/12/2017 5:52 AM, Bob Briscoe wrote:
> 1/ The IRTF sounds like a good landing point for all the previous
> attempts to get the IETF to add path-awareness protocols.
>
> BTW, this goes back a lot further than SPUD. A good summary of
> pre-2007 efforts in this space is in a section of Pasi's draft on this
> from 2007:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarolahti-tsvwg-crosslayer-01#section-6
> , which reminds us of TRIGTRAN (2002), INTERSEC (2003), ALIAS (2003)
> and TERNLI (2006). 
IMO, those are less "path" than "link" aware.

I.e., I see "path aware" as knowing the difference in the *path*
properties of two different paths, e.g., BW, latency, jitter.

I see "link aware" as dealing more with per-hop loss rates, MAC
collisiions, etc.

So yes, there are a lot of "dead" bodies from past work here, but IMO
that's a lesson - I don't think link-transport interactions are a great
idea. I sincerely hope that this new effort is doign in a different
direction, rather than rehashing these old efforts...

Joe

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