On 9/17/2017 7:05 PM, Tom Herbert wrote:
>> I agree, there is engineering effort to bring MPTCP in the mainline Linux
>> kernel, but this is outside the scope of IETF.
>>
> Oliver,
>
> I disagree, discussions about deployment and implementation are in
> scope. The primary argument for necessity that this draft makes is
> that MPTCP is being deployed too slowly. If we are to consider that
> argument then we need to understand _why_ deployment of MPTCP is slow,
> so the details about current deployment state and implementation are
> pertinent. Also, while there is significant engineering needed to get
> MPTCP into Linux or other systems, we cannot ignore the significant
> (possibly more) engineering effort to define, standardize, develop and
> deploy an interim solution on clients and converters. 
Additionally, this would leave in place a solution that complicates the
design space for MPTCP for the future. That sort of cruft can be
difficult to get rid of.

> In the end, if
> the problem can be solved without creating a new complex and invasive
> protocol that is the better path forward.
+1.

There are no "urgent" problems in the IETF for which short-term
solutions are needed, IMO. We need to take the long view of our actions.

Joe

>
> Tom
>

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