Hi,

I apologize of this is not the correct forum for this
e-mail - I have just joined.  What is the plan for the
security mangager ?

I was hoping that Authentication, Authorization and
user management would be separate services that would
be independant of each other.  I should be able to
replace the authentication module if I need to - for
example I may need to authenticate on username,
password and some other token say the IP address.  I
may need to replace the user management by a component
such as the OMG Party management Spec.  

In my mind parties are identified by a single ID.  A
party may have zero or more identities and each
identity would have a set of capabilities (ACLs)
associated with them.

Thanks 

- viraf


--- Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure what's going on with the security code
> in the
> rundata_security_changes branch but I think we're
> veering off a bit:
> 
> 1. The security model should be completely self
> contained, so that the new
>    model that you (eric and gonzo) should be
> completely isolated in the
>    o.a.t.security.turbine package. There shouldn't
> be any interfaces in
>    the o.a.t.security package except for the
> SecurityManager.
> 
> 2. We agreed that SecurityManager is going to be the
> controlling unit for
>    security. A SecurityManager may use several
> SecurityModels in
>    an application. I am -1 on the use of Policy as a
> replacement for
>    SecurityManager: I don't want to use JAAS
> nomenclature at the top
>    level and I would like to follow the patterns
> used Stratum and
>    Fulcrum where we have Xmanager. I don't think
> policy accurately
>    describes what something like a security manager
> would do.
> 
> I am about get the fulcrum security stuff working so
> I would like to push
> all currently proposed security code into
> o.a.t.security.turbine so it's
> self contained and make a new o.a.t.security.fulcrum
> package where I will
> bundle all the classes that are bound to fulcrum.
> 
> The other I had for gonzo and eric is: can't you
> primarily use what's in
> fulcrum as a basis and fix what was a problem? I
> haven't started looking in
> depth at the proposed code I'm just asking. I know
> the current security code
> is problematic but I'd say it's 80% there interface
> wise.
> 
> -- 
> 
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
> 
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> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
> http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
> 
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