On 7/23/01 12:47 PM, "Incze Lajos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 10:22:40AM -0400, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After some discussion on Friday in #turbine, we decided that Torque
>> will move toward becoming a self contained, stand-alone persistence
>> layer.
>> 
>> The upshot is that the code that is currently in the DBService will be
>> moved into the Torque repository so that Torque will function independently.
>> The DBService in Fulcrum will become a service wrapper for Torque.
>> 
>> We also hope that Torque will become a JDO implementation. With the
>> complete separation of Torque as a persistence layer we're hoping we
>> attract more developers and users.
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> jvz.
>> 
>> Jason van Zyl
>> 
>> http://tambora.zenplex.org
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
>> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Just FYI. I like very much Scott Ambler's design and paper on
> persistence layer. Robust, small, elegant
> (http://www.ambysoft.com/persistenceLayer.html - altough I'm sure,
> most of you know this address). There is a one-man-show somewhere
> in Russia, a certain Artyom Rudoy has implemented this framework
> pretty completely (http://artyomr.narod.ru/ or recently
> http://player.sourceforge.net). I think it would be meaningful
> to merge "pl" with "torque" as "pl" misses a generator and Torque
> could gain a very concise target. (Didn't talk to Mr. Rudoy,
> he holds his own license on the software, it's free, just you
> have to retain his name in your work based on "pl".)

:-)

We know about Scott Ambler, the peers are in part based on his work
and I have talked with the author of player.sourceforge.net about
joining forces.
 
> incze
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jvz.

Jason van Zyl

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