It is being tested.

john mcnally

Peter Lynch wrote:
> 
> Perhaps requiresNew Session should be deprecated in 2.2 instead, but other
> than that, I see no reason not to apply this patch. Will someone please
> apply?
> 
> -Peter
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gareth Coltman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Peter Lynch'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:36 AM
> Subject: RE: [PATCH] Removing redirect logic in Turbine.java
> 
> > Why hasn't this patch been applying to CVS?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 03:13
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [PATCH] Removing redirect logic in Turbine.java
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Here is a patch to turbine-2 the does the following:
> > >
> > > 1. Removes the Turbine.java logic of redirection to establish
> > > new sessions
> > > which, although reportedly a fix for certain obscure browser
> > > and server
> > > combinations, also has the consequence of creating several
> > > problems itself.
> > >
> > > 2. Removes the abstract requiresNewSession from
> > > SessionValidator.java et
> > > all. This method is no longer needed as the only place it was
> > > used was in
> > > the above removed code.
> > >
> > > Hopefully someone can patch this into Turbine-2. ( and port
> > > to Turbine 3?)
> > > .Thank you for your assistance.
> > >
> > > -Peter
> > >
> > > PS - below is a snippet of problems that could be included
> > > with the commit
> > > to explain why it is being removed.
> > >
> > >
> > > ---8<-- excerpt from my quasi-rant from another post to
> > > turbine-user and
> > > scarab dev-----
> > > My thinking is that this particular code solves no common
> > > problem. Instead
> > > it is itself a hack for a very rare instance/combination of
> > > agent/container
> > > or at the very least some session tracking voodoo. Whoever
> > > encounters a
> > > problem stemming from this code not being in the core should
> > > be the one who
> > > adjusts their own code. I agree I should have not been the one hacking
> > > workarounds for this piece of code and sharing my findings
> > > more vigorously
> > > with others might have helped others.
> > >
> > > I can note several distinct problems caused by this code:
> > > 1. User bookmarks a link with the redirected key, causes
> > > Infinite redirect
> > > stack dump to client. Open a new browser and try it yourself:
> > > http://scarab.whichever.com:8080/scarab/servlet/scarab/redirected/true
> > > 2. When the code does execute it makes one request into 3
> > > separate requests
> > > ( and responses) causing unnecessary traffic.
> > > 3. Posted data can be resubmitted as a get, causing overflow
> > > in Apache or
> > > the container.
> > > 4. working around the above problems means the developer has
> > > to add other
> > > hacks just to support a core hack condition that will never
> > > likely occur.
> > >
> > > Maybe this code had more solid purpose back in the days of
> > > Servlet spec 2.1,
> > > and crappy browsers and containers..
> > >
> > > Reading the list archives tells a sorted tale about this
> > > redirect code. For
> > > example
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg
> > 03347.html
> > is one of many messages about the confusion this code causes.
> >
> > Here is what Sean Legassick had to say in
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg02713.html
> > "This mechanism is in place to ensure that session tracking works
> > correctly. Particularly it allows the container to select URL-based
> > session tracking if the client browser appears to have cookies disabled,
> > and it guards against infinite redirects where a containers session
> > tracking mechanism is broken (it could be argued this latter case is
> > unlikely these days). It's a fairly common servlet API trick."
> >
> > Funny, actually it facilitates infinite redirects. See #1 above. The first
> > part above is avoided if something like DynamicURI is used to construct
> all
> > the URLS in your app. Doing so means the urls returned in the template
> from
> > the first response would have the session id appended if a cookie could
> not
> > be set. The encoding determines if session id should be appended to the
> URLs
> > for you. There is no need to do the redirect thing for the server to
> figure
> > it out.
> >
> > Lastly, the first call to request.getSession(true) will create a new
> session
> > anyway if one does not exist. In Turbine 2.1 this happens in
> > TurbineRunDataService when the session is put into RunData.
> >
> > Sorry, I just have no good things to say about it. The patch is simply to
> > remove the code.
> > Not add more hacks to work around the more common problems that the
> > redirection creates.
> > ---------8< end rant------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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