I'm a great believer in not re-inventing the wheel. If you are already in
the process of developing the next generation of TDK I see no reason to
write another one. Access to your Turbine Test Machine would be greatly
appreciated.

Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 13 March 2002 17:15
> To: Turbine Developers List
> Subject: RE: TDK for Turbine 3.0
>
>
> On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 11:36, Chris Holman wrote:
> > I suggest the following. I'll send you a copy of my attempt at
> a TDK when
> > its stable enough. You review it and decide whether I have the
> right skill
> > set and make a decision based on that. Can't say fairer than that.
>
> If you want, I can give you access to the machine I am setting up as the
> turbine test machine. I would like there to be a touchstone for the
> releases so any problems crop we know they are with turbine and not some
> configuration glitch on the machine that produced the drop.
>
> I don't know if you've been following Maven but the TDK will eventually
> be able to upgrade itself with the 'update' target. Currently we call it
> the 'update-jars' target as it only deals with jars but it can be made
> to deal with any resource.
>
> The machine will be setup with restricted access for those who want to
> help with the tdk. I'm trying to get sapdb and oracle setup on the
> machine so configurations with those databases can be setup. I am also
> only testing tomcat3 and tomcat4 but there's no reason why we can't use
> other servlet containers too.
>
> > Chris
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 13 March 2002 15:06
> > > To: Turbine Developers List
> > > Subject: RE: TDK for Turbine 3.0
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 05:04, Chris Holman wrote:
> > > > Coming from a support background I totally understand Jasons
> > > point of view.
> > > > And I agree that there are probably many gotchas that I am
> unaware of.
> > > >
> > > > I need a TDK for V3 only, which I have started writing using
> > > the TDK for V2
> > > > and Scarab as starting points. If anyone wants it, give me an
> > > email and I'll
> > > > deliver it direct. No promises about fully supporting it though.
> > > >
> > > > It might be a usefull stop-gap until the fully sanctioned version is
> > > > released.
> > >
> > > If you want to get involved and you know how things work then get
> > > involved in the process. I would be ecstatic to have someone else who
> > > knows how to create TDK but it is something that I'm very
> protective of.
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 12 March 2002 20:32
> > > > > To: Turbine Developers List
> > > > > Subject: Re: TDK for Turbine 3.0
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 15:01, Daniel Rall wrote:
> > > > > > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 05:30, Chris Holman wrote:
> > > > > > > > Is there a TDK for Turbine 3.0? If not, I'll put
> one together.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, but we'll do the TDK drops. Sorry but this is
> > > something that I
> > > > > > > like to be highly controlled, the release of TDKs. I know
> > > it doesn't
> > > > > > > happen nearly often enough but the process is not close
> > > > > enough to being
> > > > > > > fully documented nor reliable enough to let anyone do it.
> > > It will be
> > > > > > > better when Maven is used but at this point Martin is the
> > > only other
> > > > > > > person I feel comfortable with making TDK drops.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If Chris is able to pull off building the TDK, no reason why he
> > > > > > shouldn't.
> > > > >
> > > > > For himself sure, but it's not something I would sanction
> for public
> > > > > consumption. Anyone can make the TDK by running the scripts
> > > but there's
> > > > > a lot more to it than that like knowledge of the linkages
> between the
> > > > > other packages, how the testing mechanism works, how the
> > > profiles work,
> > > > > the differences between t2 and t3 builds (what works and
> doesn't). I
> > > > > want to document it and if someone can struggle through
> it that's fine
> > > > > and they can do whatever they want but I won't answer any
> questions
> > > > > about a TDK that didn't come from either Martin or myself.
> > > > >
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