On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 14:43, Daniel Rall wrote:
> Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 11:39, Daniel Rall wrote:
> > > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> 
> >> > I have the code and i will check it in once we figure out what we're
> >> > doing with stratum. Either leaving our component goodies in there or
> >> > moving them to a new repository.
> >> 
> >> I would like to see them go into Commons.  Perhaps the Avalon guys
> >> would even start using them...
> >
> > They are not components like the commons components.
> 
> That's incorrect.  The Component component fulfills the Commons
> charter neatly.  Its niche is clearly defined as a set of interfaces
> to use in building frameworks -- it itself is a not a framework.

Yes, but what does the specification of that Component lead to?
Unfortunately given standard composition rules in standard Java the
component is generally component framework aware by design. I have a
couple ideas for making components re-usable across frameworks using
aspects. But components in Avalon say are slightly different then what I
plan for a component.

I don't know if I have the energy to try and stake a claim in the
commons on a specification for a component. We can discuss this and if
you have the time and energy to put into it we can try something. But I
don't think what we will have in Turbine is going to be anything of a
small scale. But if you want to pool effort, the large effort I imagine,
then I'm into it. Gotta scoot to a workshop ...

> > The decision was to leave this stuff out of the commons (by the
> > commons folk) even though this framework stuff will creep in I'm
> > sure.
> 
> I wish I had time to read those 1k messages I'm behind on...  :)
> 
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