On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 05:28:48PM +1100, Paul Smith wrote:
> I think your design of the security framework is first rate.  What I am not
> sure about, and as I said before it probably related to my lack of clear
> understanding of JAAS, is that your framework (can) effectively "wrap" JAAS.
> If Sun is pushing JAAS as their "security" architecture, wouldn't it be
> better for your framework to effectively _BE_ the JAAS implementation.  That
> way Turbine could be seen to be JAAS compatible (always nice to promote
> standards), and your framework is the actual guts of it.

Unless Dan or someone more intimate with JAAS corrects me, I really
don't see how JAAS fits into the Turbine picture.

>From the tidbits I picked up on the Sun site, JAAS is
authentication/authorization framework for the likes of
rlogin/SSH/telnet/Kerebos/etc. For users logging into boxes to get
terminals/files/etc. Not for applications doing
tens/hundreds/thousands of authentications/authorizations per second
as users hit a web application or similar service.

Unless that is what Dan envisions his framework being; e.g. a
Fulcrum/Turbine interface that interacts with enterprise
systems and the like. But I was fairly sure it was offered as a
replacement for the current security framework for merely checking
against a JDBC/XML source whether a user has access to X or Y.

I looked at Dan's framework for about as long as I looked at the
JAAS stuff, so I could be wrong. And not long enough to make a good
judgement call on the quality of Dan's framework, other than I
really appreciate the effort as the current solution works well, but
could be a better.

- Stephen

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