You can develop your own implementations of the SecurityService. For 
example a JDBCSecurityService or an OJBSecurityService could be 
usefull for some people.
--
  Humberto

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodrigo Reyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:56 AM
> To: Turbine Developers List
> Subject: Re: Is there some new security service being developed?
> 
> 
> Stephen
>     Ok, I know JAAS was not specificly designed with webapps 
> in mind. Still,
> I think that the fact that it is a low-level security 
> framework makes it
> specially secure. I have been thinking that every action and 
> screen could
> implement the PrivilegedAction Interface so the default 
> implementation of
> the run method is the one which, on authorization succed, executes the
> doPerform or doBuildTemplate methods. What do you think?
>     On the other hand, I have been told that there is a new 
> security service
> being developed, but it will still rely on Torque. Since 
> Torque is being
> decoupled from Turbine, I think relying the security service 
> on it is not a
> very good idea, since there will be some users that would 
> like to use the
> security framework, but wouldn't like to use Torque (and that 
> is my specific
> case).
>     I am not saying a Torque based security service is not 
> useful. I am
> saying the security framework should be thougth as open as 
> possible so any
> one could implement a new engine under its API (read 
> interfaces) without
> hurting the rest of Turbine. Sorry if this is an old issue 
> already, but I am
> new to the mailing list. Hope this all makes sense :)
> 
> Rodrigo
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Haberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Turbine Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Is there some new security service being developed?
> 
> 
> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 11:56:34AM -0500, Rodrigo Reyes wrote:
> > > Torque. Since we don't want to use Torque just because of the
> > > security service, we have been thinking about creating our own
> > > Security Service basing it on JAAS.
> > [snip]
> > > But even if JASF gets into Turbine, is it JAAS based? Thanx...
> >
> > This JAAS issue came up when JASF was being discussed, as you have
> > noted, but after browsing the Sun website, unless you can convince
> > me otherwise, I really doubt that JAAS is the type of thing you're
> > looking for. Specifically, there is a quote of what JAAS can do:
> >
> > "Describes a utility program that authenticates a user using JAAS
> > and executes any application as that user."
> >
> > 
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/security/jgss/tutorial
s/index.html
>
> JAAS, to me, seems like a low-level security system specifically
> built into the Java runtime to allow things like above, e.g.
> authenticating the name/password a user gives against, say, a
> Kerberos database, and then letting them execute the Java code under
> a special set of permissions.
>
> Is this really what you want to do? Perhaps it is, but I'm thinking
> most users of Turbine just want to authenticate from an
> HTTP/SOAP/XML-RPC request, not via a Kerberos, or similarly complex,
> authentication server, and then authorize access to certain web
> pages and user data, not control what classes/files/etc. the user
> can load within the Java VM.
>
> Though perhaps I'm missing a part of JAAS? Do you have a link to an
> example of what you want JAAS to do within the context of Turbine?
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen
>
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