Nice tool for testing the tool scopes....

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Quinton McCombs
NequalsOne - HealthCare marketing tools
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:57 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Tool Scoles (test application url inside. :-) )
> 
> 
> "Quinton McCombs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> If you have a session tool added with the anonymous user, you
> >> get these added to the anonymous users temp data. This 
> >> happens in the Velocity Service _before_ the login action is 
> >> run. Now you log an user in and get a new user object 
> >> _without_ the session tools and your first screen will not 
> >> have any session tools. 
> 
> Quinton,
> 
> it is much worse. Even with the current code, the session 
> tools might change if an user logs in a second time while the 
> first is still active.
> 
> I was thinking long and hard about this but didn't come to a 
> really good idea. So I decided to get a little more visual 
> about the tool scopes and wrote a test application. :-)
> 
> You can get it from 
> 
> ftp://ftp.hometree.net/pub/java/tooltime/tooltime-1.0.war
> 
> and the source from
> 
> ftp://ftp.hometree.net/pub/java/tooltime/tooltime-1.0.tar.gz
> 
> The included turbine-2.3-dev.jar has a few patches, 
> noticeably one for debugging the pool code which forces the 
> pool to hand out a new object for each request until the pool 
> is half full. By doing so, you will catch bugs where you 
> expect to get the same object all the time but in reality the 
> object goes through the pool, gets recycled and you get the 
> same object by accident (or because there isn't enough 
> pressure on the pool).
> 
> You can control this behaviour by setting 
> services.PoolService.pool.debug 
> to true or false. I intent to put these fixes into the 
> jakarta repository sometime later. 
> 
> This might be interesting for people not too much into this 
> specific problems; the source/war contains a working (:-) ) 
> application on Turbine-2.3 dev HEAD using pull tools and a 
> dummy security service (you can log on with any user and any 
> password and get authenticated).
> 
> You can try this app out by simply dropping the .war into 
> your webapps directory of your servlet container and 
> restarting (or deploying, whatever).  Success stories welcome!
> 
> Chris, I'm more than willing to donate that code to the 
> documentation project as an example for tool scopes and 
> stuff. Please take look at it.
> 
> The displayed ids are the HashCodes of the tool objects, you 
> can verify which object you got by looking at the ids.
> 
> There are two authentication scopes in this applications. 
> They can be used simultaneously.
> 
> - The "classic" Turbine scope. The app has either an anonymous User
>   object which is never logged in or a "real" user which is logged in.
> 
> - A scope with I use in one application. Here you can select a user
>   first and then authenticate it later (no, in the real 
> application you
>   must authenticate in the first step too, there is no simple 
> pulldown)
> 
>   Here you can have
> 
>   - an anonymous user which is never logged in
>   - a real user object that has never logged in
>   - a real user object that is logged in
>   - a real ser object that is not logged in but has been 
> logged in before
> 
> Problems that I currently see:
> 
>   - Tools right after selecting the user compared to the tools after
>     the next "Reload page"
> 
>   - Tools right after authorization compared to the tools after the
>     next "Reload page". Same after "unauthorize".
> 
>   - The session tools "jump" if you log in the same user from 
> two browser
>     windows (set "accept cookies" to false in your browser or the
>     container to provide cookie free session ids) with 
> different sessions.
> 
> 
> I will think about the tool scopes on the weekend and send 
> out some ideas while doing so. Discussion very welcome!
> 
> >But this is a breaking change.  It has been possible up until now to
> 
> Yep. I have such a comment in our internal CVS, I forgot to 
> transfer it to jakarta. My fault, sorry.
> 
> >have session pull tools available before the user logs in.  
> There is a 
> >Scarab issue for the the issue with losing the session scope tools 
> >after the login executes.  I have a simple hack in my application to 
> >avoid this problem.
> 
> Ok, we definitely need to think about this much harder. =:-(
> 
> >I am looking at a way to fix the problem with session scope 
> tools being 
> >removed by login.  IMHO, session scope tools should not be 
> in the user. 
> >They should be in the session.  I just don't have this 
> working cleanly 
> >enough to commit yet.
> 
> Yes. 
> 
>       Regards
>               Henning
> 
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