You might be right, just that the way it went didn't sound very good... 
I prefer James' aproach on the discussion.

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:25:53PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Christian,
> 
> Seriously, I got something from the discussion. Believe it or not, 
> sometimes a little friction is what it takes.
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> Christian Willy Asmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 05/12/02 04:32 PM
> Please respond to "Turbine Maven Developers List"
> 
>  
>         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Re: Making plugins more modular
> 
> 
> Hei!  You guys are lost!?
> 
> Open source developers are supposed to be friends! We are all on the same
> team rember?
> 
> What's the point on critics if they are not constructive? 
> 
> Who gained something from this discussion?
> 
> I am a maven user and I certainly do not like the idea of 
> "Maven vs Centipede" because I want to be able to use what's best from 
> both.
> 
> If you look at this as an outsider (my case), you'll see there is nothing
> positive whatsoever. 
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 11:36:17PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > > Nicola writes:
> > >
> > > | From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > > | Do I need to apologise?
> > > No. Just fix your documentation if you expect people to work with your
> > > tools.
> > 
> > Ok, let me make it clear.
> > I don't expect people to work with *our* tools, differently from some 
> Maven
> > enthusiast.
> > I just wanted to merge efforts.
> > 
> > > | This is getting ridiculous.
> > > I agree. Posting off-topic to a maven developers list about centipede 
> is
> > > ridiculous.
> > 
> > This attitude is sad.
> > You are attacking me when all I'm trying to do is get the best of two
> > things.
> > 
> > If this is off-topic, so were your mails to our lists about integration,
> > which weren't of course.
> > 
> > > | > According to the forest developers (which Centipede uses) "Forrest
> > > isn't
> > > | > ready for prime time yet,". There's no site, no docs and hence 
> I've
> > > gotten
> > > | > nowhere with it. Since that's your documentation system (something 
> I'm
> > > | > interested in), I thought that would be a good place.
> > > |
> > > | Keep trying.
> > > Why? I've been told by the forrest developers to wait.
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > > | I had a terrible time integrating the Maven documentation system, 
> which
> > > has
> > > | no documentation on how it works.
> > > You might've asked someone who knows. That would be collaboration...
> > 
> > Ok, so if Maven doesn't have documentation I have to ask and that's 
> called
> > collaboration.
> > If Centipede or Forrest don't you say it's lack of documentation.
> > 
> > It's clear we are getting nowhere with this.
> > 
> > > [snip]
> > > | If we were converging, the post would have been about using cents 
> and
> > > | enhancing them so they fit both projects.
> > > Why would I post about something I can even get built?
> > 
> > Yeah, this is the point.
> > Then do it on your own, no problem.
> > 
> > > | Anyway, as I said, you can do as you wish.
> > > | I just wanted to tell you all that Centipede already has most of 
> this
> > > | functionality.
> > > And I just wanted to say I can't use it and couldn't tell if it did.
> > 
> > If you post it on the users list we will be happy to help.
> > But *this* is offtopic for the Maven list.
> > 
> > You are right, Centipede sucks, Maven rocks, sorry about disturbing you.
> > Is this better?
> > 
> > --
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