> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 30 May 2002 21:48
> To: Turbine Maven Developers List
> Subject: RE: Test behaviour
> 
> Thanx ;)
> You look a lot like a dutch singer btw :) (saw your face on your
> website..)

really ? Can I have his name so that I can try to find his face on the
web ? ;-)

Thanks
-Vincent

> 
> Mvgr,
> Martin
> 
> On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 23:24, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Yes, you have now convinced me that it might be good to have this
option
> > in some cases :-).
> >
> > However, this should definitely not be the default, but I think that
was
> > your idea also.
> >
> > So, I'm removing my -1. I'm now +0 ;-)
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 30 May 2002 21:05
> > > To: Turbine Maven Developers List
> > > Subject: RE: Test behaviour
> > >
> > > Hi Vincent,
> > >
> > > Still your -1 is based on the fact that <you> don't like to work
that
> > > way.
> > >
> > > > -1 for the same reasons already described. If you don't want
tests,
> > > > don't write them or exclude them from a build. But it the tests
are
> > run
> > > > they must pass.
> > >
> > > I want tests, but sometimes they don't pass, but I still want to
build
> > > everything (nice to have website feedback, or even build... eg) It
> > could
> > > also be nice if this can be used in automated builds, where a
build
> > > failed on the command line really doesn't give me feedback on what
> > > happened.
> > > You say, in indirect words, first write your code, then your
tests,
> > > which is perfectly fine. Some people try to write tests first and
then
> > > the code, which makes builds fail, if the code isn't finished yet.
> > >
> > > I am just reaching here to let you see that some people would like
to
> > > have some flexibility on this behaviour, which isn't allowed at
the
> > > moment, unless you change the default maven:test calls or change
the
> > > plugin test build.xml .
> > >
> > > If you don't like the property : please think about (or explain
me) a
> > > nice (workable) solution, without involving changing maven, copy
and
> > > paste the do-test stuff from the plugin test build.xml or changing
my
> > > test code (which isn't going to happen anyway, unless you were my
> > > dictator ;))
> > >
> > > Just want an alternative..
> > >
> > > Mvgr,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > I really don't want to start my own bracch, just because I
miss
> > this
> > > > one
> > > > > feature..
> > > > >
> > > > > Mvgr,
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 02:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > personal preferences here: I'd rather not make it allowable
to
> > pass
> > > > the
> > > > > > build with a bad test. Seriously it's a motivation for
either
> > coding
> > > > the
> > > > > > tests right and having a stable product.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you want to see what the current behaviour of something
is,
> > when
> > > > I do
> > > > > > it, i simply write to system out what it is that I'm
interested
> > in
> > > > as
> > > > > part
> > > > > > of the test, rather than placing it in an assert statement.
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
> > > > > > Work:      http://www.multitask.com.au
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The default test behaviour of maven is to fail the build,
> > > > > > Since I don't want that in some cases, since I am failing
tests
> > > > > > intentionally  (why?? : I am writing testcases for something
I
> > don't
> > > > > > know the intended behaviour of and the current behaviour
strikes
> > me
> > > > as
> > > > > > odd or buggy, I will write the test as I see fit, and ask
> > someone
> > > > who
> > > > > > knows to get it the it's supposed to be -; hope you still
with
> > me..)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For this to work I have attached a patch, which allows a
> > property to
> > > > be
> > > > > > set in your favorit properties file. Default behaviour is
still
> > to
> > > > fail
> > > > > > the test though..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have fun..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mvgr,
> > > > > > Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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