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ain't your daddy's build system.
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From: "Nathan Coast" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "maven dev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:48 AM
Subject: maven's focus


> Hi,
>
> management or development or both?
>
> BTW, I'm not trying to start a flamewar, I think maven is a superb idea.
I just
> wanted to open the debate about the different ways maven could be used,
and how
> to make maven applicable to as many developers as possible?
>
> Quote from maven overview "Maven aims to make the developer's life
easier".  I
> reckon much of the work in maven is aimed more at the management of
projects,
> whist the functionality to aid development falls short of what a developer
> routinely needs.
>
> I think that a typical development day a developer could make code changes
and
> want to see them in a deployed environment 100+ times a day. At the same
time
> they might be less interested in creating javadocs, task lists, changelogs
etc.
>   (IMO) These sorts of tasks (whilst important) could/should be run
> automatically on a centralised build box.
>
> e.g.
> It feels to me that maven is half way there with the j2ee plugin build
scripts -
> automating the building of war files etc, but falls short at the
deployment
> stage.  If maven were to manage the whole of the build / deploy / test
cycle, I
> think would increase the usefulness of maven to developers, therfore
increasing
> adoption of maven.
>
> e.g.
> as a developer I'm interested in comiling my changes as quick as poss, so
> watching the build process spending half of its time checking pom-updates
etc is
> phaps not what I want.
>
> cheers
> Nathan
>
>
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