Cost would be $125US. -Peter
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason van Zyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 11:58 PM Subject: Re: New Clover plugin > On Sun, 2002-06-16 at 01:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'd be happy to talk to the guys @ Cortex about a $0 license for us - > > they're in my city :) > > Even though it would be $0 for us, I'm not particularly keen on Maven > being a vehicle for the Clover revenue stream. > > David Peugh has been working on integrating quilt and I think we should > support that effort as it's an Apache style license and people using > Maven wouldn't be forced into purchasing a license as they would be if > using Clover. > > I definitely think the integration of a coverage tool is important which > is why I have been working with David Peugh on BCEL and Quilt from the > very start. He's been working on the some nasty classloader issues (Bob, > you might want to talk to David about the wacky Ant classloader issues > you're having with Junit) but the first shot at Maven integration is > done. David sent me the first attempt but I'm jumping on a plane > tomorrow so I won't be able to do anything. I asked that David make the > attempt soon as I would rather encourage the use of Quilt over Clover. > > Clover looks great and I think the Cortex folk would love to keep us > happy and let us do the work integrating Clover but the licensing still > sucks. Which is why David started Quilt while working on his projects at > DARPA because the cost of coverage tools is just ridiculous. > > Did the Clover people say how much people would have to pay in order to > use it with their projects? Something like: free for OSS projects, > otherwise your first born. > > > -- > > dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting > > Work: http://www.multitask.com.au > > Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers > > > > > > > > > > "Peter Lynch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 06/16/02 02:27 PM > > Please respond to "Turbine Maven Developers List" > > > > > > To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject: Re: New Clover plugin > > > > > > Here is a convo I had with someone at Clover headquarters about licensing. > > He > > mentioned Maven integration before I did, so maybe he is on this list ;-): > > > > -------8<---------- > > > > Hi Peter, > > > > > Sorry, but I am missing something. What about if a commercial > > > company wants to just 'use', not develop the open source > > > project which has freely licensed Clover? > > > The open source project by it's license requires no payment > > > in this case. Will the commercial company need a seperate > > > clover license costing $125.00 in this case? > > > > > > > My apologies - we haven't explained ourselves very well. > > > > As an example, consider the Maven open source project. Maven could obtain > > a > > $0 Clover license. This would allow the Clover binary to be distributed > > with > > the source distribution of Maven, for the sole purpose of contributing to > > the open source development of Maven. > > > > If a commercial company downloads Maven, and uses it to manage the build > > of > > their own project, they would not be licensed to > > use Clover for their project. They would indeed need a separate Clover > > license. > > > > Licensing for Clover is yet to be finalised. Our goal is to make Clover > > freely available for open source projects to use, while still providing us > > with some income from commercial users to support ongoing development of > > Clover. We welcome all feedback on how we can better achieve this balance. > > > > Regards, > > -Brendan > > > > ---- > > Brendan Humphreys > > Senior Software Engineer > > Cortex eBusiness > > http://www.cortexebusiness.com.au > > > > ----------8<---------------- > > > > -Peter > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "bob mcwhirter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Turbine Maven Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: New Clover plugin > > > > > > > > > > > I'm eager to commit but I wanted to check with you first ... :-) > > > > > > > > Note: The only "issue" that I can see is that clover is free for all > > > > non-commercial projects only (however, Cortex, the company creating > > > > Clover seem ok for us to redistribute the clover jar). > > > > > > +1 if we can get definite clue as to license issues. > > > > > > Do we have lawyers to look at this kind of thing? > > > > > > > It is a plugin I'd like to see integrated in Maven as it is the best > > > > test coverage tool that I have seen and by far. The problem is that I > > > > don't know how I could write such a plugin with no impact on existing > > > > ones (core, test, doc). The same issue will happen with > > > > Jalopy/JRefactory (but it is easier for them as they don't need to > > > > modify the compile target, etc). > > > > > > Hopefully maven-ng will make plugins such as this > > > easier to do. > > > > > > -bob > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- > jvz. > > Jason van Zyl > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://tambora.zenplex.org > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
