Here's the reply I got... -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers
----- Forwarded by dIon Gillard/Multitask Consulting/AU on 01/11/2002 08:41 AM ----- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Please help us make Maven less obscure and better > documented. > > Where do you think we should focus our effort? > > What are the most obscure pieces of Maven for you? > > What would you change about the current docs to make > them better? Hi Dion, I'm not sure which maven list to crosspost to, so feel free to forward it to right one. I'm myself somehow skilled - I'm xdoclet& jEdit developer, and do ( and understand ) large builds with ant. So, I see that there is cool tool, which is videly used in related projects, and see that it has some cool features which would allow me to simplify my build process. At first I would like to look how it works, and try it on my live project. One would first try to convert something simple, just one module to use maven - here comes the problem. Ant projects do not necessarily follow turbine preferred layout ( this layout is result of growing project, history etc ), and are not always easy to convert to it. So for starter converting person needs: - explanation of maven inner working, relation of property files etc (already covered by documentation, but more detail with examples would make it better ) - description of various properties used by maven plugins, and what they exactly do. ( not much coverage here... ) - hunting and guessing this information from .jelly files is no easy task, it's not probably that somebody converting to maven would already know jelly Another thema is repository stuff. I figured by first maven start ( took some time, slurped wrong property file, croacked because of absent trailing slash in $MAVEN_HOME ) that thing are getting loaded from ibiblio.org. What to do if required jar files are not there? How to organise own repository? How to chain repositories together ( say, I like to use xdoclet in my project, and by chance I'm also developer so I use xdoclet always out of my checked out copy. How do I setup dependencies that maven would use my xdoclet built stuff, even if xdoclet is not build by maven, but only by ant - though we might change it once more people know how maven works. Currently only Ara seems to know this well ) For more advanced users - how to write / maintain own plugin & custom goals - in real life you will find a lot of obscure things which are not used in turbine related projects... I'm myself currently have a problem: I have J2EE app with couple of EJB modules, and SWING frontend with heawy use of xdoclet everywhere ( it's not only for EJB - Beaninfo & message bundles are also very usefull :) ) So I would like to use full power of maven on it, set up reactor to build subprojects etc - but I got not much information... regards, ===== Konstantin Priblouda ( ko5tik ) Freelance Software developer < http://www.pribluda.de > < play java games -> http://www.yook.de > < render charts online -> http://www.pribluda.de/povray/ > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ForwardSourceID:NT000892B2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-maven-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:turbine-maven-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
