I will of course try to make my patch "right" as possible - it will at some
point end up in 
production code for which my reputation and job will depend. However, I have
a few comments:

1 - My changes will (do) depend on some of the changes/corrections I have
already submitted, 
which are very slow to be integrated (most notably my ComboKey fix,
submitted with test case).
Currently to commit my pk change, I would have to submit a large (around
1000 line) patch that
includes this and other small changes.

2 - I have a few other small patches that stand alone, but support this
larger change. I would like
to submit those seperately, then submit the pk change. This would require
some help in getting these
applied in a relatively quick manner.

3 - While making my change, I am coming across numerous places where I would
like to suggest other
changes, in fact, the new way of doing things in some cases (imho) higlight
things that require
a re-think - they never became issues before, but could now. I would prefer
to not hold this change
untill each and every one of those issues is discussed and resolved - this
change/patch would become
out of hand at that point, and I would not be able to eficiently maintain my
seperate version untill
accepted, thus causing me to abandon the fix.

4 - Hard as I may try to make sure that I cover all situations, I cannot,
and there will most assuredly
be flaws or bugs introduced by my changes - be it new bugs, or old bugs that
hid well.. I would preferr
to get my change into the tree and have everyone help test and debug, rather
than keep it seperate for 
a long period of time trying to find bugs that my particular use will never
raise.

I will of course bring to the list my discussions and insights into places
where I think more work/thought
may be needed, but I do not want to hold up this change for each of those
discussions - it seems that 
the bulk of the opinion is that this is a good idea (in fact noone spoke out
against it), and as such
deserves the attention of the entire community to complete. "Release early,
release often".

I will commit to providing my time to complete/bugfix/tweak this change - I
know this is a promise from
someone you do not know, but I will stand by it.

And an update on the change - I have it complete in my sources, somewhat
tested (using it in our applictation!). 
It will surely need some tweaking once the community gets to look it over
and experiment with it. I
will begin submitting patches for the stand alone changes, waiting for a
response to this message by the Torque 
maintainers before the "big one". 

Thank you for your time
Russell

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John McNally [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:54 PM
> To: J. Russell Smyth
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> Subject: [TORQUE] Issue #TRQ41 modified
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> Issue 'TRQ41' has just been modified by user 'jmcnally'
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> You can view the issue detail at the following URL:
>      <http://scarab.werken.com/issues/id/TRQ41>
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> The following modifications were made to this issue:
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> I am okay with this change assuming the patch is done right 
> (I have confidence it will be).  If someone wants to commit 
> this other than myself, please make an attempt to coordinate 
> with me before doing so.  thanks. john mcnally  
> 
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