Thank you for the great responses but I am still a little confused. All of
the elements that will be used will basically work as "subapps" or "modules"
to the main app. I guess they could all be put together but it seems as
though they would be better suited being a bit more portable. I would like a
single session, and allow people to use a calander or an address book
seamlessly from their original login and use the same permissions and users
in all areas I think putting all of these together would make quite a mess
of files (and 50+ database tables). It think it would be better form to be
able to drop the same calendar into another app without too much rewiring.

Am I off-track?

Matt



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From: Michael L. Conneen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: singleton vs multiple applications


> Steve,
>
> RE: .... does not guarantee your ACL passes with you, because the second
app
> does not know you from Adam.
>
> That is true.  So, using just the base framework, you would have to also
> identify the user.. currently this is just via uid/password.  I have not
> looked into passing the ACL, I would anticipate session issues but have
not
> verified.
>
> mlc
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:38 PM
> To: Turbine Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: singleton vs multiple applications
>
>
> Mike:
>
> You said...
>
> <quote>
> For the security, if you use Flux (or Fulcrum) you can have each webapp
> point to the same underlying data source via the turbine resources
> properties file.
> </quote>
>
> Won't you still have a problem accessing secured functionality in the
> separate servlet/webapp because your ACL doesn't transfer? (are you even
> still in the same session?)
>
> What I am trying to say/ask is that leaving the confines of one turbine
app
> for another, even if both use the same security service, does not
guarantee
> your ACL passes with you, because the second app does not know you from
> Adam.
>
> Is this not true?
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael L. Conneen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:28 PM
> To: 'Turbine Users List'
> Subject: RE: singleton vs multiple applications
>
>
> Matthew,
>
> Run them as different web apps.  If they have to share services or
> functions,  like say the product catalog, you can either communicate
between
> webapps or just make sure that the objects and peers are in different jar
> files so you can included the jars where needed.
>
> By the way, I hope to have Fulcrum updated to use LDAP as a data source by
> the end of the first quarter.  Then, the idea would be the same, you would
> still have the TR.props reference the appropriate service/data source and
> your webserver point to the appropriate LDAP server if you want to gain
the
> ACL on the front end.
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Koranda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: singleton vs multiple applications
>
>
> I'm mailing this a little funny so I'm not sure if this will be included
in
> the proper thread but this is pertaining to the thread started by
Ronan-Yann
> Lorin titled singleton vs multiple applications.
>
> I was wondering what the final solution was because I am in a similar
> situation. I am creating one large app that will connect a company with
it's
> suppliers, and also make the information available on the internet (kind
of
> a intranet/extranet/internet solution). It contains quite a few components
> that seem as though they might be organized better as separate
applications
> namely a global/personal address book, a calendar, a product catalog and
so
> on. I'm not quite sure how these application would interact if they were
> separate. My biggest concern is the user login/validation bacause even if
> they could operate separately, they would need the same users and groups.
>
> I had planned on having one main database as the separation of information
> is not critical, it will all be hosted ansd operated together.
>
> I hope my questions are clear. Any help and direction would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
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