>
> Gareth
>
> Just a couple of questions. What's PI per month? Can't think what
> PI stands
> for.

Yep Page Impressions.

> Secondly, what database are you using?

Oracle 8i.

> Thirdly, how did you find Turbine and how long did the development take?

The length of any development is obviously effected by a lot more than just
the framework! But I will say that once developers had got the hang of
Turbine everyone said it was one of the easiest frameworks they had used,
and it certainly did speed up development.


> I've tinkered with Turbine and also had a go with J2EE and JSP
> and I really
> like Turbine and find the J2EE and JSP thing a complete nightmare.  It
> appears that you would agree with that.

In my opinion there are a number of MAJOR problem with the J2EE 'standard'
model (EJB/JSP):

* Slow (new app servers are getting better)
* Steep learning curve for EJB's
* No clean seperation between layers (JSP's always end up full of code)

I looked at struts and it seems quite good, but I just don't get the point
of using JSP's if you are going to servlet controller as well. (I'm sure
I'll get flamed for this!)

Turbine has some problems too, but mainly they are just conceptual. The
problem is that too few companies have heard of it and so in typical style
they are scared! It's also difficult to get Turbine developers - but as I
said - it's easy to learn...

Gareth


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